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It isn't that simple. What they post on their website and what Warren actually puts in his books aren't necessarily the same. Remember, the enemy is subtle. Warren misquotes scripture by using awful translations and then he wrests verses out of context to try and make them say what he wants...

Iveyleager, I say AMEN to your post. Yes, it sounds serious and it is. Let me suggest a goldmine of links regarding this cultish book: http://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/articles/topic/seeker.html

And that is addressed within the Purpose Driven Life book as well. Folks are urged to get "saved" in order to find their God given purpose. [/b]</font> Can you show me the page(s) where Warren gives the biblical plan of savlation in PDL?

Kenneth, The problem is, what is our "purpose"? The Bible teaches that we are enemies of God without Christ. The Westminster confession says our primary purpose is to glorify God; I agree with that. There are probably more non-Christians than Christians who have read Warren's PDL and I...

I'm reading "sola scriptura" by a host of authors and "Hard to Believe" by MacArthur.

SBCbyGRACE, You continue to emphasize that theology is not the same as methodology, but I have an issue with this. By making this statement, you seem to infer that one's theology has no impact on their methodology. If this is your position, then you are wrong. Do you not believe Warren's...

SBCbyGRACE, What rebuttal did I refuse to answer? I have provided quote after quote, with citations, and you have YET TO RESPOND to the content of what he said. You seem obsessed with "everyone makes mistakes" or "no one has flawless exegesis." Should our aim not be to seek after those men...

This is funny. If John MacArthur is to be shunned because he doesn't "separate" enough, then I'd like to know who in the world some of you respect as a model in this regard. MacArthur is one of the most "separated" ministers I've heard of. He did write a best-selling book against the...

My point is that the PDL concept is unnecessary It may be unnecessary for you, but rest assured there are thousands who would vehemently disagree with you regarding its necessity in their own life. [/b]</font> No, it's more than "on occasion." The book is full of exegetical errors. For...

The 1611 KJV revised in I believe 1768(or 9) to modern spelling. Note, I did not say "modern words" I said modern spelling of old words.Such as changing "Iesus" to "Jesus" [/b]</font> Oh, so you're ok with "updating" the spelling of old words? Is that what I'm hearing? [/b]</font> note I said...

Dr. Bob, I really wish you would address the specific quotes from Rick Warren which I provided. They are not secondary sources; I transcribed them myself. He is misusing scripture to teach "exponential growth", a concept foreign to New Testament teaching. Would you please address the topic...

There are many important doctrines that I believe that are not explained on my website. Again discussing what is missing from someone's website is absurd. The same reason you cannot judge someone's overall theology based upon one sermon or element of their ministry -- it is an incomplete...

SBCbyGRACE, If Warren believes in the importance of repentance, then why would he withhold that information on his website? Also, Why can I not examine his theology based on his website, especially given the fact that he uses his website to introduce what his church believes? You are giving...

Here is the problem Thumper: God did, in fact, preserve "His word", but not in the way that makes you comfortable. He preserved it by ensuring that thousands of hand-written copies would be made in a time when there was no printer. These copies were distributed to hundreds of churches...

The Corinthian church is an example of a church that "created environments" that were conducive to visitors?

SBCbyGRACE, While I agree that "BornBaptist"'s post was less than charitable, I do think it is interesting that if you click on Warren's video "welcome" on the Saddleback website, you'll hear this man give his version of an invitation, which, and correct me if I'm wrong, mentions nothing of...

The 1611 KJV revised in I believe 1768(or 9) to modern spelling. Note, I did not say "modern words" I said modern spelling of old words.Such as changing "Iesus" to "Jesus" [/b]</font> Oh, so you're ok with "updating" the spelling of old words? Is that what I'm hearing?

KJVBibleThumper, You still haven't answered my question. Which KJV is your final authority? The Cambridge or Oxford edition. They aren't the same. Also, I assume you use the 1st edition from 1611, right? Surely you don't use the 11th revision from 1769 which is in print today!!?? That has...

Comments on Warren's video continued... 4. Exponential growth captures the attention of the unbelieving world – Ex. 1:12 12 But the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew. And they were grieved because of the children of Israel. Any layman bible student could identify...

Marcia, Got it. Thank you for your reply. I agree. His books aren't "bad", they just aren't "great." There is so much out there that is solid in its exegesis that I don't know why we need Warren's PD books. No heresy there, but too many errors such as you acknowledged for me to comfortably...