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    What is your final authority?

    KJVBibleThumper: Which King James Version edition is YOUR final authority? The Cambridge or the Oxford? Also, why are you more than likely using an 11th or later edition of the 1611 KJV? Certainly you are aware that the one in your hand is probably from 1769 or later? Enlighten us: Which...
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    Question about "Reformed Baptists"

    What is a reformed Baptist Church? Try this: http://www.prbc.org/ReformedBaptist.htm
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    Book review

    Charles, I am reading "A Case for Amillenialism" by Kim Riddlebarger and it is very convincing. I'm studying the issue now and am not sure where I'll end up! Great book though - check it out.
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    John MacArthur

    John MacArthur's church, Grace Community, is listed as a member of the Independant Fundamental Churches of America, International. Here is what that group believes: http://www.ifca.org/Constitution/doc.htm A highlight: "d. New Evangelicalism (Neo­Evangelicalism, New Conservatism) These...
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    The Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren

    Marcia, I answered this by showing one example of many where Warren misinterprets Matthew 16:25. Did you read that post?
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    The Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren

    :eek: :eek: That depends upon your definition of the word "heretic." If you define the word to mean "a person who holds religious beliefs in conflict with the dogma of the Roman Catholic Church," then you definitely did not say that Rick Warren "is a heretic in any way." HOWEVER, if you...
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    No women in heaven...

    My father in law holds this view. He uses 1 John 3:2 for support: "Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is." I don't agree with him on his interpretation...
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    The Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren

    Bob Colgan, You are correct. This is my frustration as well. I provided direct quotes and examples of incorrect exegesis and Dr. Bob doesn't address it, nor does SBCbyGrace or Johnv. They simply defend Warren without discussing the details. For the record - I am not saying Rick Warren is a...
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    The Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren

    Dr. Bob said: "And why would I want to read Bob DeWaay's article condemning Rick Warren's book because he is developing a following? " Dr. Bob, It isn't very godly to accuse the brethren and judge their motives, is it? This is very disappointing.
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    The Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren

    Dr. Bob said: "Rick Warren and myself are both Baptists! " Dr. Bob, this is one of the biggest problems with the Southern Baptist Convention - there is an amazing array of churches that go to extremes. There are very liberal (relative term) churches that feature...
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    The Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren

    SBCbyGrace, You have declared that Rick Warren is solid theologically. I disagree. I watched a video on the purpose driven website. It is a 20-minute presentation on "exponential growth", taught by Warren. He made 10 points in this video. 1. Exponential growth is possible - Gen. 47:27 With...
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    Should we bring unbelievers to Church?

    SBCbyGrace, You have declared that Rick Warren is solid theologically. I disagree. I watched a video on the purpose driven website. It is a 20-minute presentation on "exponential growth", taught by Warren. He made 10 points in this video. 1. Exponential growth is possible - Gen. 47:27...
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    Should we bring unbelievers to Church?

    Dr.Bob said of Saddleback: "Two things evident on the last 3 pages - the utter confusion of Rick Warren (Saddleback) with the "seeker" style of churches like Willow Creek. This is night and day, totally unrelated to each other." Have you ever heard of Saddleback Sam? (see Purpose Driven...
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    Should we bring unbelievers to Church?

    SBCbyGrace said: "I personally believe church services are about creating environments -- for the believer, an environment of worship (in its various forms) and instruction. For the unbeliever, an environment where they will hear the gospel and witness its life-changing effects among the...
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    Elect angels of 1 Tim 5:21

    I believe he is referring to the angels in heaven - the ones who didn't rebel with Lucifer. I don't see an application for this to refer to earthly "messenger" or "sent ones" (as angels sometimes means). Yes, I believe God chose the angels who didn't fall just as He chose the Christians who...
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    EVERYONE check out this sermon my Johnny MAC

    He agrees with the reformed view of soteriology (biblical view, in my humble opinion) who is also pre-trib. and pre-rapture. You won't find that very often!
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    Crystal Cathedral et al

    johnv If you are unwilling to discuss Schuller's actual quotes, then I will conclude you are not interested in a serious discussion on this issue. I asked about your church affiliation because the church we attend sometimes (should) reveal some important things about us. No personal probing...
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    The Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren

    Dr. Bob, Sorry, this isn't going to work. In what context is it appropriate for Warren to misuse sripture as he did in Matthew 16:25? You think it's ok as long as the book is for baby Christians? I don't understand this...Where is the discernment on this board?
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    Crystal Cathedral et al

    johnv, What church do you attend? Are you Baptist? Frankly, your unwillingness to acknowledge the heresy of Robert Schuller's beliefs is apalling. I posted several direct quotes from one of his books on the PDL thread. Did you read it? Please comment, using his own words, on why you...
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    Crystal Cathedral et al

    Andy, Good catch. I've noticed that too. They edit the hymns be removing references to sin, sinners, etc. Schuller is an apostate.
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