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  1. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    DHK, I'll get to the rest later. But for now, I'd like to quickly respond to this: Yes, but I did this because since I began posting here it is you who have said, at least a 327 times, that there is "no church, just churches." You've been sidelining the church since I showed up here. You've...
  2. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    iv of iv to DHK I admit that I am a sinner. I have no hope apart from Him. I, therefore, turn to Christ for salvation. "Lord, have mercy upon me, a sinner." He is the Lord of my life. What is your point with all of this? you have no corner on the humility market. And to the extent your...
  3. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    iii of iv to DHK Again, St. Paul is teaching that Gospel message of justification by faith. Notice, though, in these numerous cases, he never drives home the point that ALL works are divorced from this saving faith of which he speaks. Again, elsewhere he describes on numerous occasions the...
  4. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    ii of iv to DHK Please remember, though, that this claim should not be understood as an indictment of Scripture. But it's so very important that, if we wish to treat the Scriptures rightly, that we don't mistake our personal understanding and interpretation of the Scriptural texts with the...
  5. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    i of iv to DHK DHK, I have no reason to believe that you don't come by your positions honestly. I am convinced that you truly mean well and that you're a beloved Child of God. I admire you and consider you to be a "kinsman in the faith." I consider you to be a brother in Christ, though...
  6. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Part 2 of 2 to Martin 4) Callistus attempted to confirm this heresy—a man cunning in wickedness, and subtle where deceit was concerned, (and) who was impelled by restless ambition to mount the episcopal throne… But after a time, there being in that place other martyrs, Marcia, a concubine of...
  7. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Part 1 of 2 to Martin Martin, I am working on putting together a response to some of your most recent comments to me. It's taking me a minute! And b/c I dove into this new exchange with DHK, that's been put on the backburner. But I'll get back to it... I believe you're saying this in...
  8. herbert

    Thanks. That is too sweet of you! I have some other things that I am working on to share with...

    Thanks. That is too sweet of you! I have some other things that I am working on to share with Martin.
  9. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    DHK, Again, thanks for your continued discussion. As I said, I am working on a response to Martin Marprelate and I didn't intend to run down this rabbit trail. But I do enjoy our conversations and appreciate your being patient with me and pressing on... I'd say that this statement itself...
  10. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    You're doing it again, DHK. I never suggested that all of those various ways by which God may reach out to us are occurring presently. I was just saying that God can (and has) revealed Himself to us through all of those means. Look what you do, though. Instead of really reading what I say, you...
  11. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    4 of 4 DHK, if you can show me that I’m mistaken, I will be happy to change. But you’ve not even so much as begun to even acknowledge, restate, respond to, or give the time of day to the numerous criticisms I’ve presented of Biblicism. I have pointed out the fact that Sola Scriptura is not...
  12. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    3 of 4 In my personal experience, those who leave the Catholic Faith often didn’t really know it well. You left it when you were only 20 or so. And you did so, from what it sounds like, in a dramatic moment of frustration, confusion, and hope for a certain comforting delivery from your...
  13. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    2 of 4 DHK, your doctrine is unBiblical because it’s not taught in the Bible. What does it mean for something to be “based on” the Bible. And who says that Christian doctrine is supposed to be “based on” the Bible at all? Christian doctrine is supposed to be “based on” the person of Jesus...
  14. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    1 of 4 DHK, When the way you frame your statement itself presupposes the legitimacy of your position, dialogue is impossible. It’s what we call “begging the question.” Underlying your statement above is a certain presupposition, a presupposition which views all matters pertaining to...
  15. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    What do you mean by saying that your challenge is "qualified" through the Scriptures? Your challenge isn't itself Scriptural. You made it up. Your opinion concerning Catholics and their knowledge of Scripture has nothing to do with your challenge to all Catholics. It also has nothing to do...
  16. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    DHK, My Internet connection went from doomed to intermittent to secure. I am working on a response to Martin right now. But I just have to jump in here and thank you for saying what you said above. This statement reveals the very point that you're stuck on that I've been challenging for 20+...
  17. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    I see it this way: I was born with a pair of glasses on. My parents were right to place them on me as an infant and raise me with them in mind. I, however, didn't really realize that I had them on. I was so accustomed to them, I didn't realize how they impacted my perception of things. What I...
  18. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Martin, As I said, my internet connection status has abruptly changed. At this point, it is intermittent. I have a few minutes right now and I don't want to "win" an argument. All I want to do is demonstrate that you don't have an upper hand. At most, you're on equal footing with the Catholic...
  19. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    BobRyan- I have some time to chime in this evening and tie up a couple loose ends, if you will. As for what you said above- Thanks to you, also, for being so kind and patient with me as we've conversed. I must say, though, that even the way you phrased your comments above reveals to me the...
  20. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    steaver, I stopped back for a moment to see how things had been going since I left the conversation due to the sudden change in my internet use status... After I stepped back from the conversation, you made a comment about my time here. Thanks for wishing me the best. All the best to you, as...
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