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  1. herbert

    Purgatory

    Hello, You seem quite confident that you're not mistaken about the status of the Deuterocanonical texts (i.e. that their human authors weren't operating according to the guidance of the Holy Spirit such that the texts they composed would rightly come to be affirmed as God-breathed). So I'd...
  2. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    What does it mean to "get away" from Sola Scriptura? Before one could insist that to get away from Sola Scriptura is a dangerous thing, one would have to first demonstrate the legitimacy of the doctrine. In other words, one would have to demonstrate that God intends for believers to hold to the...
  3. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    DHK, If you're trying to point out the fact that Scripture is inherently authoritative, I agree. I don't know how many times I've acknowledged this point. I agree with you. Where I think you're mistaken isn't on that particular point. Where I think that you're mistaken is in imagining...
  4. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    3 of 3 to Martin There are many things to consider here. I’ll share just a few points and then respond to what you offered below: The first portion of this text is, according to both Catholic and non-Catholic interpretations, quite uncontroversial. We both agree that “All Scripture” is...
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    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    2 of 3 to Martin Great. Let's take a look. An uncontroversial statement: Rightly understood, Scriptures are able to make one "wise for salvation" in Christ. A. I beg to differ. The “first point(s)” St. Paul makes are found before this verse. Just before your line, St. Paul states the...
  6. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    1 of 3 to Martin A writer once said "I have made this letter longer because I lack the time to make it shorter." I think I feel the same way he did. Responding to this: You offered the following: A. I absolutely agree with you here. But that's because a Catholic Bishop could have...
  7. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    Hello, DHK- I said this: "For starters, here, then, I'd ask you to demonstrate how it is that you see the fact that Christ quotes Scripture and that the Writer of Hebrews quotes Scripture as somehow revealing to us that we are justified in holding to Sola Scriptura." The mere quoting of...
  8. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    DHK, My statement was not intended to suggest that Christ didn't quote Scripture. I believe most definitely that He did. I am sorry if I was unclear on that point. Herbert
  9. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    Gerhard Ebersoehn, 1) I did not suggest that anyone "shut up." 2) Although I may be deceived, I can assure you that I am not lying. For to lie is to deliberately bear false witness. 3) I believe that Scripture is the inspired Word of God. Thank you. Herbert
  10. herbert

    Purgatory

    The Catholic Church teaches that people who die end up in one of two places: Heaven or Hell. Those who end up in Heaven do so 100% by grace through Christ. On the way, though, souls bound for Heaven may experience a “final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the...
  11. herbert

    Purgatory

    The Catholic Church teaches that people who die end up in one of two places: Heaven or Hell. Those who end up in Heaven do so 100% by grace through Christ. On the way, though, souls bound for Heaven may experience a “final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the...
  12. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    Hello, utilyan. Thanks for responding. Although I think I see what you're getting at, I'd say that most people here agree with each other as far as the identification of Scripture goes. Where they run into a problem, which reveals their position as bankrupt, isn't entirely a result of the fact...
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    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    Martin Marprelate stated the following: "But of course, Sola Scriptura is not dependent on a couple of verses. In His temptation with the devil, our Lord did nothing but quote Scripture at him. In conversation with the scribes and Pharisees, He is constantly pointing them away from 'tradition'...
  14. herbert

    Divine Revelation vs. Human Opinion

    In another conversation steaver said: "I have been following these conversations between DHK and Herbert, Adonia, and Utilyan. Dozens of times two questions put to the Catholics has yet to be answered. 1) How does one become born-again? 2) Where is the evidence from the Scriptures that Jesus...
  15. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Hello, Martin- It's good to hear from you. I find your posts intriguing, challenging, thoughtful, etc. So I look forward to getting back to you and seeing what I may have to learn from your insight. I am just about to head out for a night in the woods with my sons, so I will be responding to...
  16. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    DHK, It turns out that I guess I was right in characterizing your position in the manner I did. In your words I described you as "juxtaposing" the Church and Scripture. Your statement above demonstrates that I was right in doing so. Herbert
  17. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    4 of 4 Thanks for this, DHK, it means a lot to me. As I’ve said, it’s so very hard to read a person’s tone through such a medium as this. And I do hope that you hear respect and kindness in my words. I am not sure that you fully understand my appreciation for the many godly Baptists I...
  18. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    3 of 4 DHK, it seems that at this point you’re just stacking up evidence in favor of the Catholic position. Consider this: You’ve just cited a Scriptural passage which calls us to, in your words “test on the basis of the Word of God” a given doctrine and accept it or reject it accordingly...
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    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    2 of 4 It is pretty obvious that the author of this text has “gotquestions,” mostly about logic. For the author “begs the question” by presuming that Catholic doctrines “contradict” the Bible. But that’s the very thing that is in question between Catholics and non-Catholics. It is the...
  20. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    1 of 4 DHK, as I said above, I was just putting a finer point on your statement. My doing so, based upon having read every word you've shared here thus far, was entirely justified as I was just clarifying what it is you mean when you talk about the Bible's Authority. You’ve been arguing for...
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