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  1. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    SovereignGrace, As a matter of history, William Tyndale was put to death by the Protestant Authorities of his day. I only pointed that out because ReformedBaptist made a false claim when s/he said: Thanks for your continued discussion! Herbert
  2. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    ReformedBaptist, Thanks again for your further engagement! As I said, though: My central claim here is that Sola Scriptura is a doctrine not found in the Scriptures, revealed by an angel, spoken by a prophet, or otherwise given to us by God. If you'd like to discuss this claim, or share...
  3. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    ReformedBaptist, As a matter of history, William Tyndale was not "strangled and burned at the stake" by the "Roman Catholic Church." He was put to death by a Protestant Head of Church and State, King Henry VIII. He famously died with a prayer for the King on his lips. Further, nothing you...
  4. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    SovereignGrace, You said: “You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me,[John 5:39]... The words written of old testified about Him. He never appealled to anything other than the scriptures...Sola...
  5. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    I am not sure what this: "When did Jesus EVER quote and use to answer critica anything using tradition of the Jews, and not the OT itself?" means. Could you please re-phrase that? Herbert
  6. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    1. The statement above (or anything like it) is not found in Scripture. 2. The number of Scriptural texts isn't found within Scripture, either. Therefore, yours is an extraBiblical appeal. Herbert
  7. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    Hello, again- Could you please cite anything Christ said which indicates that Scriptures "alone" are the "word of the Lord unto us"? Further, to suggest that this is the case, it would seem that you're overlooking the Lord Himself in your effort to affirm for the Scriptures the position which...
  8. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    Hello to you! I'd like to ask you about a couple things: 1. Your statement indicates that there are 66 Books in the Bible. Where is that found in the Bible? 2. The Canon contains "'ALL' that God as to say to us in all things needed for us to be taught, matured, learned up on..." This...
  9. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    5 of V to DHK "True Christianity" has, as an essential component, relationship with Christ. Marriage, also, has, as one of its necessary components, mutual co-operation and relationship between spouses. Both of these things, however, are not rightly reducible to simply the "relational"...
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    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    4 of V to DHK Premise 1: "Jesus is our sole authority." Yes. Amen. I can accept that because the Catholic Church with its Sacraments, its Faith, and its Magisterium represents the provision instituted by Christ through which He would shepherd His People before His Glorious Second Coming...
  11. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    3 of V to DHK To evangelize a Catholic is to presume the superiority of your own position *as a matter of Christian doctrine.* And that, incidentally, is exactly what this conversation is supposed to be about. Catholics, wherever they're found, are heirs to the heritage of "Western...
  12. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    2 of V to DHK I am not "making" a contradiction. I am pointing out a contradiction which already exists between the doctrine of Sola Fide and the teaching of St. James. Sola Fide states that we are saved by Faith alone. James 2:24 states that we are not saved by Faith alone. I recognize Sola...
  13. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    1 of V to DHK DHK, As always, I appreciate this conversation. Though there are many criticisms coming from both sides of the aisle, I'd like to once again affirm the fact that from my perspective though we do have some serious areas of disagreement, much more unites us. And I feel a certain...
  14. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    Hello- DHK stated the following: "Is it any wonder you don't believe in sola scriptura or that it is taught in the Bible. It does. If it didn't then Jesus would not use the Bible as "His sole authority" when answering others. And that has already been demonstrated to you." Christ, being the...
  15. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    I don't usually spend too much time with syllogisms, either. It's just that from what I was drawing from our conversation, I felt that it would help to bring clarity to things. And although I formulated a syllogism based upon what you'd presented, I am sorry if I misrepresented your position, so...
  16. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    DHK, When someone disagrees with an idea you present, the way to respond isn't to: a. Criticize their person b. Question or describe their intelligence c. Discuss the state or intention of their will d. Explain the similarities of their position to that of someone else e. Point out how many...
  17. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    Martin, When I respond to each of the many points you make, you seem to lament the "vast" responses I share, so I'll just respond to a couple fundamental points: You said: Either I missed it, or you didn't actually respond directly to my challenge. Whatever the case, would you please repeat...
  18. herbert

    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    Hello, DHK- What I asked anyone here to demonstrate is not "totally unrelated" to the original statement or question and therefore it does not represent a non sequitur because within the context of this conversation those two "proofs" were presented as part of the justification to which one...
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    Sola Scriptura: The Sufficiency of Scripture

    Martin, After you asked me to trim things down I decided to take a different approach with you. I provided two responses instead of one. You were free to choose to respond to the shorter response or the longer response. Without responding to the shorter, though, you went ahead and chose the...
  20. herbert

    Purgatory

    Revmitchell. I am confused by a few things: a) You stated that "Anything not found in scripture is automatically controversial." And when I pointed out the fact that the statement "Anything not found in scripture is automatically controversial" was itself not found in Scripture and should...
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