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  1. herbert

    'Tradition'

    DHK, A few comments ago you said this: "The churches of God, Paul says, are united in doctrine. If you want to bring your "tradition," your custom, and introduce it into our churches, you will have no such luck. We are united in our doctrine, and are not going to argue about your traditions...
  2. herbert

    'Tradition'

    Darrell C., There are those here who don't believe that a Catholic is a Christian at all. So I don't think it's really the way you describe it, Darrell. And that's fine. People are entitled to their own opinions. When they mistake their opinions for divine revelation, though, that can become a...
  3. herbert

    'Tradition'

    DHK, I asked you the following questions. You did not answer them. Until you answer them I can't understand what you mean by "we" and I cannot determine whether or not you are really "united in doctrine" as you claim: When you say "our churches," who exactly is included in the "our"? You...
  4. herbert

    'Tradition'

    DHK, I am not following you very clearly with this latest commentary. With these comments I am especially confused: When you say "our churches," who exactly is included in the "our"? Who, also, is it who is "united in doctrine"? You aren't a Calvinist. So you're not lining up with a number...
  5. herbert

    'Tradition'

    Martin, if you're still reading... I have been reflecting upon what you last shared and a number of considerations have come to mind. I'd like to record them here in case you're still reading. If not, maybe Darrell or some other reader may take a moment to look them over. They are all offered...
  6. herbert

    'Tradition'

    continued Wait. You just hopped from obedience skipped to the Law and jumped to the authority of the Seat of Moses and leaped to the Word of God (by which, do you mean the 66-Book Bible sitting on your desk?). This seems to be a conflation of four distinct things: 1. The Law as received by...
  7. herbert

    'Tradition'

    continued I'd say it's debatable as to whether or not many modern televangelists are preaching the Gospel at all! Some of them hardly mention the Cross, suffering, Christ's call to holiness, etc. Again, Jesus didn't qualify His statement the way you are. This is where one mustn't confuse his...
  8. herbert

    'Tradition'

    Darrell C, Thanks a ton for responding. I do truly appreciate your kindness and your interaction. Thanks! Allow me to attempt to respond to some of your remarks as best I can. If this were a forum for Mathematicians, all Mathemeticians would be subject to the laws of Math during their time...
  9. herbert

    'Tradition'

    Hello- I was a Baptist until the age of 30. I once held to Sola Scriptura. Further, I admire the Baptist tendency to remain true to so much of what Scripture teaches and am thankful for all that is good in my Baptist heritage. And I agree with the idea that neither a person nor an institution...
  10. herbert

    'Tradition'

    Martin, Notice the fact that this is an ad hominem. Here you are discussing me, my person, my will, what I "seem to be" looking for, what I seem to be (desperately) trying to avoid, etc. Rather than talk about me, why don't you address the problem of induction? Again, you're talking about...
  11. herbert

    'Tradition'

    continued Finally, Christ's condemnation, as the text in question indicates, is not at all a "blanket" condemnation. The Pharisees' traditions are *specifically* denounced according to the way in which they're leveraged in such a way as to avoid the Law of God, and not according to their...
  12. herbert

    'Tradition'

    continued Nowhere in 1st Corinthians does St. Paul say that he commends "only" those things which he himself passed on. In that passage, he simply says "For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread..." There is no "only"...
  13. herbert

    'Tradition'

    continued Please consider Isaiah 8:19, which reads: “When someone tells you to consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should not a people inquire of their God? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living?” This verse reveals the fact that the immediate matter in question here...
  14. herbert

    'Tradition'

    Having written a number of comments on a few separate threads, I think I may have referred to an "above" which was not above but which was found on the discussion focusing upon Sola Scriptura which was abruptly shut down. So above should have probably read "elsewhere."
  15. herbert

    'Tradition'

    DHK, You said: Rodney Stark, a non-Catholic historian employed at a Baptist University has recently come out with a book entitled Bearing False Witness: Debunking Centuries of Anti-Catholic History. From what I've read, and from interviews given in anticipation of the book, it is next on my...
  16. herbert

    'Tradition'

    My statements don't represent "assumptions." They represent the fact that I have adopted the Faith of the Apostles (which is known, in part, through the Motives of Credibility) to whom we attribute the origins of the Apostles' Creed, which speaks of a belief in "one, holy, catholic, and...
  17. herbert

    'Tradition'

    DHK, I think part of utilyan's very valid point here is to suggest that we receive the Faith in community. Christ established His Church among and through His People, Israel. Apart from the living community of faith, a single person in a library of texts, without the Church's guidance, would...
  18. herbert

    'Tradition'

    continued: Further, it appears as though you're insisting upon some sort of rupture in the early Church. You must imagine such a rupture in order to justify your insistence upon Sola Scriptura. However, if John Henry Newman's assessment of Christian history, and the role of the Church in the...
  19. herbert

    'Tradition'

    continued: One doesn’t simply declare where the burden of proof lies. Such a thing is determined objectively according to various factors which must be considered by all parties. Generally, in the absence of particular qualifying factors, the burden of proof lies with the person who is making...
  20. herbert

    'Tradition'

    Martin, As I mentioned above, tradition is not inherently and necessarily condemnable. Nothing in the Bible indicates such a thing. Nor does the historical witness of Christian writers, fallible as they may be as individuals, indicate such a thing. Further, some of the traditions Christ...
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