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  1. AndyMartin

    Inspiration/Infallibility/Inerrancy: To Be or Not To Be?

    In light of another thread that I started, on Andy Stanley's misuse of the Holy Bible, and certain comments that he has made, that are clearly heretical. I am asking here as very simple question: Is it absolutely necessary that all truly born-again Christians, believe in the total Inspiration...
  2. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    Not a problem. Thanks for all your insight. It still baffles me that there is a small minority on here, who simply cannot understand the seriousness of what Andy Stanley teaches. About 3 years ago he spoke on homosexuality, were a husband and wife separated (or divorced) and then the husband...
  3. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    Sure, see you around!
  4. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    My Lord! what on earth is wrong with you people! Why this determination to keep on supporting this guy??? As I said, do you know that EVERY word that Paul used at Athens is in Acts 17?
  5. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    We are here dealing with Andy Stanley, and his handling of the Word of God. What I have quoted directly from what he has said on the Virgin Birth, is nothing short of heretical, and cannot imagine anyone trying to defend this.
  6. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    Paul did indeed say, "ALL Scripture is Inspired by God" (2 Timothy 3:16). I doubt that all that Paul ever said is recorded in the New Testament. Why are we even arguing about moot points?
  7. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    Hello, I agree that all of the Books in the New Testament, all 27 of them, were there before 90 A.D. However, Church history informs us that some were "disputed" at various times, even by the Orthodox. But at about 367 they were all recognized as Canonical and formed part of the New Testament...
  8. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    I cannot ever agree to any Christian witnessing for Jesus, and using the Holy Bible, not saying, "the Bible says", when we quote the Bible. This is modern-day nonsense. Who really cares if the unsaved world take offense to us saying, "the Bible says"? This whole Gospel is a STUMBLING BLOCK!
  9. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    To be fair to AS, I heard the two parts of this message, where he says that we did not have the Bible till the 4th century, and must agree with him here. The Bible consists of 66 Books, 39 in the Old Testament, and 27 in the New. While the Old Testament was completed at the time when Christ was...
  10. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    Sure, but does this mean we can say that the Virgin Birth could be untrue?
  11. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    Are you Andy Stanley?
  12. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    Yes, you are right, but some on here are blinded to this!
  13. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    Lets hope this thread does not divert from what it was That is not the point here. How can ANY born-again believer in the Lord Jesus Christ make this remark? "Christianity does not hinge on the truth or even the stories about the birth of Jesus, it really hinges on the resurrection of Jesus"...
  14. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    It is God Who saves lost souls, even through those who are not faithful to Him or His Word. Please don't think that because God may use AS to save thousands, that this means that God condones what he is saying or doing!
  15. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    Hi Reynolds, you see, it is not about whether we like AS or not, this is really not the issue here. neither is it that we are in judgement on him, but, it is important to tell it as it is, when "pastors" who have the responsibility of being shepherds of the souls of those entrusted to their...
  16. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    There are no errors in the original Bible autographs. Translations are just that, the work of fallible man, which do have some "errors" that are in them. Like, when versions remove the word "God" in 1 Timothy 3:16, and replace it with "who", or "he who", and omit the reference to the Holy...
  17. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    My point being, that ALL that we believe and hold is based on the Holy Bible, which is the Word of God. And nothing short of a 100% perfect Bible is needed. A person can be saved by the Gospel of Jesus Christ and faith in His finished work on the cross. But, if that same person doubts whether...
  18. AndyMartin

    Andy Stanley and Mass Deception

    What is wrong with people? I cannot understand why there are some who are still trying to defend Andy Stanley? There is no doubt that he has problems with the Infallibility of the Word of God. I have also posted on this thread, where AS thinks it not important whether the Virgin Birth as...
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