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Case and point right here. Heaven is not the eternal destination. The Bible puts an emphasis on resurrection not bodiless existence!

Not sure I would use the term "embodied God" unless speaking of Jesus. However, his divine presence will be w/ humanity in a very real and personal (covenantal) way (Rev. 21:3ff.). We usually think of God's presence residing in temple which it always did since the garden on into the church...

Absolutely... this is still around too. Thus there is the emphasis to be rapture ready and get out of this world. And for the above, MB, I did say new creation to make that distinction. However, if you study the words, this world will be refurbished and in that way new. So in a real sense...

Seriously. Have you ever thought about? It is easy to claim to get your theology from Scripture. But when you compare your interpretation of Scripture w/ these influences, it is quite scary. Example, I hear so often about how they look forward to going to heaven and heaven is their home...

That would be a good observation. PD sees the church as continuing the kingdom program between Israel, Jesus, and the church rather than the church age as an interregnum period. It also emphasizes the already/not yet aspects of the kingdom (realized eschatology lite). And its hermeneutic is a...

Undergraduate to lay level. And I would say that while I was a huge Ryrie fan.

What does your dispensationalism have to do with anything (other than the implication that you are wrong about that too ;))

Prolegamena first Theology proper or bibliology second Christology Pneumatology angelology anthropology hamartiology soteriology ecclesiology eschatology Keep in mind... this is coming from someone who prefers biblical theology over systematic theology any day of the week (and twice on Sunday)

Unrelated, but where did he recieve his Dr. I can't find that answer on the website. Question of curiosity. Thanks for what you do!

Isn't interesting that the early church took a passage that referred to Israel and their restoration and applied it to the church as the fulfillment of the restoration of Israel: Act 15:14 Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. Act...

Do you have a biblical argument for #2? What is your biblical rationale for a historical-grammatical hermeneutic?

You mean normal KJVOnlyism didn't cross the line to heresy?

Why not... its the most fun! ;)

Those kind of churches will continue on w/ the same strategy as always... find a fundie rockstar to get behind and follow that man until he moves on... continue this process as necessary. This is the secret to their "success" w/ the last 2 "pastors" and it will continue to be this way. They...

I think much of this is because there is no real gospel presentation that calls sinners to repentance and discipleship. Instead, "another gospel" would tell us that one can be a convert but not a disciple. Thus you have much of the "lukewarm" churches in the states. I am sickened by much of...

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How about progressive covenantalism??? It is basically covenant theology w/out the theological covenants. Some call it new covenant theology. This is where reformed baptists are going. Gentry's new book, Kingdom through Covenant is going to be the standard and tour de force on this issue...

Don't want to derail the thread into a calvinism debate. My post was directed at calvinists who are inconsistent and wishy-washy on this issue (in my opinion). I just read an article by my seminary president who, also in my opinion, is being inconsistent...

I am unsure why some calvinist (not accusing any here at the moment) use a different criteria for election for adults than with infants. Salvation and God's election is not dependent on one's ability to believe OR understand OR reach some moral capacity, otherwise it would be meritorious...

Which is why I laughed at his post... you made it even funnier!!!