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That is not a "Calvinistic" sermon. It is a "Biblical" sermon not specific to Calvinism alone, and one might hear it just as well from an Arminian preacher. And so would the Arminian preacher. These truths are not specific to Calvinist preachers. I have heard many Arminian preachers...

And do you preach honestly from the pulpit that Christ only died for a few of you out there.............thought so.......point remains.

Yes, Spurgeon is another one OR who proclaimed Calvinism to be the very Gospel.

Well, I looked it up, it seems there is a squibble among your people over some nit picky items. So, conclusion is, SBM is a Calvinist, so your request to name one Calvinist who says TULIP is the Gospel stands answered. In fact, I didn't read anywhere where TULIP verses the Gospel was even part...

I think we get that, but that is not specific to Calvinism, Arminian believes the same as they preach the Gospel. The OP point is it is defining the sermon as "Calvinistic" yet it has no mention of Calvinism theology within it.

I believe if you define your sermon as "Calvinistic" then it would certainly have something to do with Calvinism!! And yours does not......it could be defined as an "Arminian" sermon, but as I always said, Calvinist preachers preach Arminian. They would not dare preach the conclusions of...

There is nothing in your OP sermon which is specifically Calvinistic, correct? The sermon could be preached by an Arminian preacher who disdains Calvinism.

Yeah we heard that worn out line now for weeks. Is this OP sermon about the Doctrines of Sovereign Election and Grace? Remember, not one Calvinist pointed out any part of my sermon which was a dishonest representation of Calvinism and why. No, not one..........

This is EXACTLY what the Calvinist believes. So why doesn't the Calvinist preach it in Evangelism???

No No No!!! That would be a "truthful" Calvinistic sermon......the WHOLE Truth and not these half truths, hide the actually conclusions of Calvinism sermons.

EXCELLENT Observation!!!! :thumbsup: I really don't see Calvinism in this sermon at all. It appears to be 100% Arminian, and I might add, spot on!! :thumbsup: I specifically like the closing allegory, Did you read anything in there which said God regenerated Christian so to make him...

My take on those who will not gladly share their coming to Christ is one of two things. (1) They do not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, don't understand what others are talking about when they say they have a personal knowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour, and is IN...

Really? So one can be a sheep and still be in unbelief, refusing the Gospel, even hating God? For we know thousands of cases of people rejecting the Gospel for years upon years, hating it, hating the name of Jesus Christ, and then later in life embracing and loving Jesus Christ. So these are...

And this means ??? He's a liar? He's deceived? He's not a true Calvinist?

:laugh: You think you making a declaration that it is malarkey is pointing out WHICH PART IS DISHONEST AND WHY???

sbm........

Yes brother, and this from a man who doesn't understand he is a Calvinist :smilewinkgrin: Oh, and let me remind everyone for the umpteenth time, not one, no not one, post pointing out which part of my sermon contains a dishonest statement and why.....but I have no understanding :smilewinkgrin:

You gotta love it!! One Divinely Enabled Cal telling another Divinely Enabled Cal they are in grave error! "We believe what we believe because God opened our eyes to the truths of Calvinism". Now why has God opened you guy's eyes to opposing truths??

Which part?? This part... Or this part maybe.... Of course, you have yet to point out which parts are dishonest and why....still waiting....34 pages now....still a lot of whining.... no substance....

Let it be noted that brother Icon, in spite of all his whining and declarations that Steaver has no understanding of Calvinism, has not once pointed out any part of my post which is NOT Calvinism and given a reason why. No not once, only whining and complaining, whining and complaining. Here...