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Brother, we are in the (all Christians) debate section. But of course you believe only Calvinist are the sheep, according to your post in the OP.

Oooooooooookay......then why did you say I was taking your comments out of the immediate context??? You disagree with Icon's application of scripture presented in the OP. That's all I said you disagreed with. Yes, and you see a person can be a Christian and also not believe in...

Can you give an example of something he posted where you think he was wrong about the scripture?

Puzzling?? You say I take your comments out of context and then say you don't agree with Icon's statement?? Are you back peddling? That's ok if you misspoke, just say so....

Now in the original Thread on this subject, we had one Calvinist speak up in agreement with brother Icon, in fact, he declared brother Icon always correct.... And we had one Calvinist speak up and disagree..... Now it appears the "camp" does not really want to get involved with this seeing...

Brother Icon declares that one cannot become a Calvinist unless God allows them to believe the doctrine..... ....he bases this belief on Matt 13. You can see his argument here....... http://www.baptistboard.com/showthre...57#post2173157 My question is, is this what all Calvinist...

Greetings All, Since the first thread on this important issue was hijacked by a Spurgeon debate and then closed, I am beginning a Part 2 in hopes to find what is the "True Calvinism". There appears to be a split in the Calvin camp on a very core issue which was raised by brother Icon...even...

Brother Icon, you desperately want to turn this OP into a general application of a text. It ain't happening! The OP is specific, and it pertains specifically to two issues; (1) Your declarations that the reason one does not believe Calvinism/TULIP is because of Matt 13 and John 10, which of...

Are you sure you read what he said???? No, these are not the questions in the OP. The OP is specific towards a comment DHK made and an answer you gave to that comment.

So far we have one Calvinist (AA) speaking out against your comments and proof texting in this OP Icon, and one agreeing with them (Willis). I know there are a whole bunch more reading, but for some reason they are afraid to chime in, not sure if the silence means agreement or disagreement yet...

Oh I do not doubt that. He has made some very matter of fact statements about why all Christians do not embrace Calvinism/TULIP and that the "camp" agrees with him. I challenged the claims, and thus far it appears he has none on his side on this OP topic, well, except for Willis maybe, but Icon...

I like it! :thumbsup:

I find it interesting that God did not give any instruction in the Scripture for it to be seminary "scholars" who preach and teach the Scripture. It has it's place, and some value I suppose, but it is ultimately the Holy Spirit doing the teaching in those who pray and study what has been written...

No brother, I got the point several post ago. You're either missing the point about brother Icon's use of scripture against non-Cals or you are ignoring it. Anyways, that's another thread, need to get out of this one, we are off topic.

I tend to keep it simple for I am just a simple sheep. I trust God has given us a very, very adequate English translation of Scripture which has brought millions to Christ and has taught millions sanctification for hundreds of years.

But do you really think Icon is posting this out of ignorance? The only alternative then is malice of forethought. If it would, then you and I, and all, are guilty of misrepresentation. For you will say "I showed you", and I will say "I showed you".

I'm not sure why this is even called Calvinism/Arminianism Debate. Are there even any Arminians here? But we most certainly do have declared Calvinist here, and it seems if one declares no belief in Calvinism/TULIP equals Matt 13 and John 10, and one says it does not, there is quite a...

It seems odd to me to hear a Calvinist place "textual study" above the teaching of the Holy Spirit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Calvinist believe that if it comes to pass it has been ordained by God? So am I to believe that God wanted His children to be misled by "whosoever" for some four...

Ok, I misspoke, "misinterpreting" then. But let's look at misrepresenting for a moment since it has come up. When a person is having a debate over say why the Holy Spirit does not teach every Christian to believe TULIP, and a poster says it is because of Matt 13 and John 10, is that just a...

Well, I never did say that the silence meant agreement, I was actually thinking that the silence meant non-agreement. But I am revisiting that assessment now that it has been so long and the camp isn't responding. Icon says they are not reading my post, but I think he knows better, he's just got...