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Neither of these draw the same conclusions you draw regarding God's lack of knowledge. A sin can be forgiven, never to be held to account without God not being aware that it happened. Plus, Van, you have seemed to shifted your position from this supporting the idea that God doesn't know of the...

I'll answer the question, but I need a beer first... just a sec... ;) I think this is a Romans 14 matter... weaker vs. stronger; to eat or not eat meat. I'll let you decide which group Paul refers to as the 'weaker'...and honestly I think that could change depending on the circumstances...

How does that differ from the faith of a muslim in understanding their Koran and their disposition to believe what they understand? Why is that lie understandable while the powerful life giving truth remains unattainable? You are just giving unbelievers a good excuse for their unbelief. I say...

What are anthropomorphic terms if not the attributing of human faculties to God? It seems to me that Dagg is acknowledging the use of the terms in scripture, but instructing others not to believe them as they are presented, or to repeat them as if we really did believe them. In other words, it...

So, is it Satan who bequeathes the faith in Muhammed to the Muslims, or are they just born with that faith? Why is it that God would make man born able to believe a lie but not his powerful life giving truth? Is not the truth more convincing? Is not the truth more supported by reason...

Too bad Dagg wasn't there to instruct the author's of scripture. Does the bible degrade his divinity when it attributes "human" faculties to Him? No. It explains how he interacts with us in time and space and it shows that it is ok to relate to him by those terms. There is no reason one...

But, its not just a few "figures of speech." We are addressing large portions of scripture where God is revealed as one responding, reacting, becoming angry/sad, relenting etc. For example, the teaching in Luke 11 and 18 about persistence in prayer having an effect. Or all the talk of God...

How can God know my heart when he is somehow unaware of many of the key moments of my life where I have sinned against him? How does he really know Peter when he doesn't even know about his denial of Christ and all the faults in his character that makes up that heart? If what you believe is...

I meant that some of the claims of both sides is correct in that God both knows all things and came to know things. I agree that saying God doesn't know something is false. But I also think rejecting the clear meaning of the passages that say God has come to know things, or relents, is...

I'd say its a likely conclusion based upon the whole of scripture's revelation. How is the the doctrine of the Trinity developed and supported? No one questions if God the father knows the time of the second coming while God the Son admits that He doesn't. One God both knows and doesn't know...

Both sides of this particular debate seem to be suggesting the other is wrong when in reality both are right. It seems some confuse the immanent and transcendent characteristics of God. How is God the Son in one place while God the Spirit is everywhere at once and yet still only be one? God...

Ironically, no. But I do now. My best friend is a Calvinist and we usually smoke one when we get together. Nothing like a good fat cigar and an ale while talking about theology! :saint:

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that one! Good one! I seriously had a go-tee for the whole decade I was a Calvinist. I have no idea why that is... :applause:

I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you asking if I believe God could intervene to change men's instinctive desires in order to bring about his purpose? Maybe you could expound?

Your Pastor may be a Calvinist... 10. If he refers to Romans 9 at least twice in every sermon. 9. If he always tags on the phrase "of the elect" to the word "all." 8. If he appears annoyed by the word "whosoever." 7. If he sounds like a school girl with a crush when talking about...

Commentaries, Van. Please provide some scholars who support this view....preferably baptist ones, so I have a good reason to keep this discussion open in a Baptist Only Forum.

Yes, as long as you define it like Salty. :)

Finally a point we can agree upon. :tongue3: In the statement of faith of this Board (from the BFM), it states: II. God There is one and only one living and true God. He is an intelligent, spiritual, and personal Being, the Creator, Redeemer, Preserver, and Ruler of the universe. God is...

Van, we have simply requested you to point us to some scholars and/or commentaries that support your views. That is not an unreasonable request. I have access to dozens of commentaries and I have looked through about 6 of them in the last two days involving this matter. I've yet to find any...

I would hope they affirm both, otherwise you shouldn't go there.