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I'll take this as a 'yes,' you believe God is somehow unaware of all the events throughout history which have been forgiven, which is about the most absurd conclusion I've ever heard drawn from the biblical account. How do you suppose He inspired the writing of that which he didn't...

When I said "he" I meant all the leaders of the school who knew of this and chose not to report the pedophile to the appropriate authorities. For Joe to report it to his bosses and for all of them to decide to keep it internal in order to save face (aka Catholic Church) then all of them should...

Understood. :) And sorry for reading your signature. ;)

Yes, I think so, but probably not in the way we think of 'control.' (i.e. I decide it will be X so I determine it to be X in such a way that it could not be otherwise) We admittedly are stepping into speculation here but I suppose God has written the 'laws of nature' by which cause and...

Herald, I'm not a Calvinist but I agree with this interpretation. However, I think the "issue" being questioned was the "spirit of the Lord departing" as it relates to the question of perseverance. BTW, you are the "type" of Calvinist I can relate to... :)

Today, because of the influence of scriptures on our lives we all think of humility, shame, brokenness and the act of giving up and admitting we are worthless is actually "good," thus some dismiss it as being an impossible response to the gospel for sinful depraved man, but scripture never...

So, if God in his great wisdom answered these questions in 'human' 'understandable terms' then why do intellectual theologians insist on answering the same questions using confounding complicated jargon that leads to confusing and disunity? In other words, why not be okay with people...

Van, are you saying that because God forgave Peter for his denial of Christ that he doesn't know about it? Are you saying we all know of Peter's denial but God doesn't? Doesn't this make God unaware of large portions of human history since much over the years has surely been forgiven? Could...

Yes, that is the bad news. According to the moral code (be it by law or conscience) all have fallen short, but the good news is that "now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify." This is a righteousness "APART FROM LAW" (or...

What man calls "chance" is simply that which comes to pass in a way we can't possibly define, duplicate or fully understand. So, by 'chance' the dice may come up as a 5, but that simply means we are too limited in our ability to measure the force of the dice thrower's hand, the air, the table's...

Not so. That is what Romans 1 and 2 is all about. They have what they need to believe and the reason they perish is the same reason any one else does: unbelief. They knew the truth but traded it in for a lie. Now, they may not have known the whole truth regarding Christ's atoning work on the...

zrs, First, I appreciate the nature of your post. Very well thought out and cordially presented. Thank you. I agree, that there are questions that just can't be answered...especially to the satisfaction of everyone represented. However, my view doesn't typically attempt to answer all...

Luke, did you read ALL the quotes I posted? I also quoted you saying, "God willed for evil" -Luke "God willed the most horrible sin of all time" - Luke And I quoted your qualification of "evil" as not really being "evil" when God 'did it." "The Scripture is clear. God is DOING these...

As was discussed on another thread there are various approaches among Calvinistic scholars with regard to the extent of the atonement. Calvinists from the "Princeton" tradition (Hodge, Shedd, Dabney etc) taught Christ's "work is equally available for all" and that God "did all that was...

This post is to serve as a reminder that we all have agreed to abide by certain rules. There seems to be a tendency for theological disagreements to become personal in nature. Let us all remember that we are allowed to vigorously debate the theological topic at hand and vehemently appose...

But according to your earlier implications regarding cancer coming by the hand of God, doesn't it reason that my so-called "tripe" also comes from His hand? You see, you have yet to acknowledge the distinction of God's active decretive will and his permissive will. You appear to see them all...

While theoretically I could agree with this statement may I press you a bit on this point? The bible speaks of God making choices, but if God has always known his choices how would he go about making one? Likewise, how does God have an original thought ever? Could we all agree there are...

Everyone in the media has been talking about if the coach should finish the year or not, but I think they should be talking about if he should go to prison or not. He covered up a heinous crime for the benefit of his team!!! What kind of society have we become where a man can cover up the...

Ok, this is getting RIDICULOUS. Go back and read my posts. We both have agreed there a different views, but every time I attempt to define those differences (with the actual quotes of the scholars themselves) I'm rebuked with charges of misrepresentation. So, I request that HE define the...

Of course, it is what you are doing to me right now by acting as if I am the one denying that Calvinists have differing views on the atonement when in reality my OP's purpose was to point out these various views and discuss them. No kidding?! You do? I didn't know. I asked you to tell us what...