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  1. J

    church of Christ

    NO, SINCE HE HAD NOTHING TO REPENT OF. Matt 3:14-17 14 And John tried to prevent Him, saying, "I need to be baptized by You, and are You coming to me?" 15 But Jesus answered and said to him, "Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness." Then he...
  2. J

    church of Christ

    Salvation is conditional, even believing takes human work to incorporate, I really am not sure why this is so hard. Nowhere does it say that all works are excluded from salvation. Since the word works is a bad word to so many it gets thrown out all together. I would still like someone to...
  3. J

    church of Christ

    Bible clearly says that we are saved by works. the Bible clearly says that we are saved by works. But, we must make sure that we understand, not all works save. There are many “kinds” of works. The only works that save are the works that God has given us. Even faith is, in some sense, a “work”...
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    What Constitutes a Depraved Nature?

    What scripture do you find that statement in? And what does from the beginning mean, from the beginning of the devils existence or the worlds existence? Heb 2:17 17 Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in...
  5. J

    church of Christ

    I would like someone to define a cult and then tell me if it can be applied. Most people throw that word around so loosely, they cannot even tell you what it means. As for the order or when something will be obeyed. The scriptures clearly teach that repentance leads to salvation, and that...
  6. J

    What Constitutes a Depraved Nature?

    It refers to the devil. Which again shows that God does not create anything evil. Evil is sin and sin is trangression against God. God created an angel with choice and he chose the wicked way. God creates man with choice and we all choose the wicked way because we sin, but this does not mean the...
  7. J

    church of Christ

    Is this post called complaining about someone wanting to debate or is it debate doctrinal issues with other denominations? Assertions about what I believe is futile since you do not know me or even the church in which I am part of. I am not icoc or ucoc, lumping all churches with the words...
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    What Constitutes a Depraved Nature?

    Truly, this only I have found: That God made man upright, But they have sought out many schemes. Does God create children of the devil? If God creates children and allows then to be stained with sin of other men, then are they condemned until faith in Christ comes? The logical conclusion with...
  9. J

    church of Christ

    John 6:28 28 Then they said to Him, "What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?" NKJV Did Jesus tell them that there was no work for them to do? Notice that they asked what shall we do, that we may work. Jesus tells them that faith is a work. Do you believe that God...
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    church of Christ

    church of GOD I was indeed curious in how many would react to the statement. The statement is declarative in thought. It is not meant to be controversal, but true. I view salvation as something obeyed not earned by human merit. Some say that all work are excluded from salvation, yet claim...
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    church of Christ

    Salvation is conditional. One must: believe, repent, confess, and be baptized for the forgiveness of sins.
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