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  1. M

    Why is life in prison more "Christian" than the death penalty ?

    Why did He need 16 years to convict me?
  2. M

    Why is life in prison more "Christian" than the death penalty ?

    What Canadyjd said. Plus there are the issues of wrongful convictions and also a longer opportunity to repent and turn to Christ.
  3. M

    Death Penalty Poll - Con vs Lib

    I ticked the bottom box. I'm pretty socially and fiscally conservative but not a fundy on Biblical issues; I don't consider myself a liberal Biblically either although some here think I am. And I am anti-death penalty.
  4. M

    Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers?

    Er...I think Curtis said warfare state.
  5. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    It's not an either/or zero sum game. Elizabeth Warren sums it up for me: [/FONT][/COLOR] One might add to the factors listed by Warren the blessing of God or good fortune if you want, in which case give thanks to the Lord for it. The other point is that fair <> equal. Equality of...
  6. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    In case anyone here thinks this is socialist/ communist, apart from taking some time to learn a bit more about what socialism and communism really are, you might want to reflect on the fact that the welfare state and progressive tax system was first implemented in Germany about 100 years ago...
  7. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    Because it helps that there is a vested interest in governments bringing tax dollars into the Treasury coffers; government-sponsored prosecutions however are much more likely to (a) collide with the aforementioned vested interest because it is a direct attack on that individual and (b) be...
  8. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    Same question to you. PLus, how is the poor man supposed to change the law when the rich hold the levers of power?
  9. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    Easier said than done! Particularly if the rich man is in bed with the government.
  10. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    :applause::thumbs:. Look at the way that your government and ours bent over backwards to bail out the banks and other financial institutions with taxpayers' money in the wake of the collapse of Lehmans' three years ago this week... [ETA - Here's a summary of the Dirty Digger's companies'...
  11. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    So you won't engage with the facts. Sounds to me like you know you've lost the argument. All taxation, unless perhaps regressive, involves an element of redistribution. So it seems to me that you think that taxationis theft. Hmmm....
  12. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    I personally do not want what others have. I have enough. I do want people to have a fair deal, so I think your whole covetousness obsession is a straw man, so I won't engage that anymore as it is irrelevant. When you've had a chance to read my edited post above, let me know how you would sort...
  13. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    If you think it's coveting to desire fairness and justice...well...God help you. You obviously have a very different Bible to mine, in particular the Old Testament prophetic literature, which I suggest you read, starting with Isaiah 58. Otherwise, this is going to degenerate into a dialogue of...
  14. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    See my post at the top of the page. I would have thought it would be fairly obvious.
  15. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    Neither is injustice. That's why it matters.
  16. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    No envy, just realpolitik. [ETA - but, if you want to go down that route, I pose the same question as I did in effect earlier - how was that wealth accumulated?]
  17. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    To answer your first question: because the wealthy have a greater ability to pay; the system is based, in part at least, on affordability. That's partly what makes the whine in the OP so laughable: "I only have $200000 pa to live on"! You point is taken re the twin brothers - no, it's not...
  18. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    Because, unless you can come up with a better way of doing it, that's the only way to get money out of Party A. There's also the concept of both Party A and Party C owing a debt to society which needs repaying, in that they have reaped the benefits of living in a country where they have been...
  19. M

    Does It Really Cost This Tea Party Congressman $200,000 to Feed His Family?

    In any event, if one policy (redistributive taxation) is designed in part at least to offset other wrongs (exploitation of labour, large-scale tax avoidance, etc), who are we to say that that's wrong?
  20. M

    Possible U.N. Vote on Palestinian Statehood--What if the U.S. Doesn't Veto?

    I agree about the loss of the Jewish vote (although I still can't see the Jewish constituency voting en masse for a Republican candidate) but what does Obama care about infuriating evangelicals? Precious few of them voted for him in 2008, so why shouldn't he annoy them?
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