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  1. M

    Rome and Finished Revelation

    OK, so where's the 'oral teaching' given to Timothy by Paul contained in the NT?
  2. M

    Is America's Identity as a Largely Protestant Nation Ending?

    Reformed Catholic, if you don't mind! I'm not into that incense and other tat! Grace, grace and grace.
  3. M

    Rome and Finished Revelation

    You've also got the problem that the concept of Sacred (as opposed to man-made) Tradition is mentioned by Paul, particularly to the church of the Thessalonians: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions you were taught whether by word or our epistle." (2 Thess 2:15) Notice that...
  4. M

    Rome and Finished Revelation

    You've raised two objections to the idea of Sacred Tradition on this thread, one in the last post. These are both good arguments and therefore deserve ventilation here:- “What if the consensus patri ie: the doctrinal and liturgical consensus of the ECFs to which Vincent alludes in his...
  5. M

    Is America's Identity as a Largely Protestant Nation Ending?

    I trust in God's grace, that "He Who began a good work in me" will finish it in Christ Jesus.
  6. M

    Is America's Identity as a Largely Protestant Nation Ending?

    ...and a realist too - look at some of His diatribes against the vicissitudes of human nature and hypocrisy in particular! Fortunately, He and His grace can do better than that...
  7. M

    Is America's Identity as a Largely Protestant Nation Ending?

    Should we not as Christians do/ demand better than that?
  8. M

    Rome and Finished Revelation

    OK, supposing you are correct, then, it still doesn't mean that v 20 is 'anti-Tradition'; again, that is an unwarranted eisegesis on your part.
  9. M

    Is America's Identity as a Largely Protestant Nation Ending?

    That's fine; I respect your position.
  10. M

    Rome and Finished Revelation

    And all you've asserted is your personal interpretation. There's no mention for example of the Messiah in this passage at all and yet you have the audacity to eisegese it in there. In it's context, Isaiah 8 is talking about judgement for God's people for consulting outside of the Law and the...
  11. M

    Is America's Identity as a Largely Protestant Nation Ending?

    It is libertarian to demand that government be ousted from the sphere of economic morality and social morality; it is inconsistent and contradictory to cherry-pick from which one you would like it ousted.
  12. M

    Rome and Finished Revelation

    I'm quite happy to do a brief exposition on Isaiah 8: the prophet here is taking about those who prophecy outside of the Mosaic Law (it's a moot point as to what 'testimony' means); it's nothing to do with the NT. That's my take on it. Which church would that be? And what authority does that...
  13. M

    When did it all go wrong?

    Part of it was we ran out of money particularly after WW2. We were in hock big-time to the US and Truman refused to bail us out on a no-strings basis re the Empire as he hated colonialism
  14. M

    Rome and Finished Revelation

    OK, let's break down and analyse your OP: The only problem is that this is a bare assertion unsupported by evidence; indeed the Scriptural evidence alone goes against you: Paul ordains presbyters in Lystra, Iconium and Pisidian Antioch in Acts 14:23 and bishops at Ephesus in Acts 20:28 to...
  15. M

    Is America's Identity as a Largely Protestant Nation Ending?

    A further comment re the whole debate about the level of government intervention -v- private charity (in particular church) provision: many here it seems are quite happy for the government to intervene in matters of sexual morality eg: banning gay 'marriage', and certain other aspects of 'social...
  16. M

    When did it all go wrong?

    The catalyst for the British Empire's demise was WW1.
  17. M

    When did it all go wrong?

    It sounds like that you're going for the fall of the Western Roman Empire option, by and large, although Tradition was around as early as Ignatius (fl. c. 107 AD) and arguably is present in St Paul's Pastoral Epistles...
  18. M

    When did it all go wrong?

    And when, for the purposes of the poll, do you say that happened? Magus is credited by Irenaeus, that great opponent of gnosticism, with having started the gnostic ball rolling (in reality, various gnostic systems were around which Simon probably just bought into); it's ironic given what you...
  19. M

    When did it all go wrong?

    So you're going for gnosticism? Interesting. Please explain why.
  20. M

    When did it all go wrong?

    The luck of the Irish? Only the objects of potential racially-abusive terms are allowed to use them eg: black people using the 'N'-word.
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