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Ah, well, 'They' have obviously hypnotised you all and turned you into 'sleepers' to be activated by a code-phrase at some point in the future...

We're having a similar debate within the NHS on this side of the Pond. I guess it's a question of degree: where do you draw the line? For example, it's NHS policy not to give liver transplants to alcoholics unless they've been 'dry' for several months. I think most if not all people would agree...

I found it interesting that a Muslim might have that view of Christianity; I would suspect that view might very well be a legacy from the Crusades combined with a bit of modern 'muscular' Christian fundamentalism which that individual may well have experienced. As for Griffin, well, he was...

Do you want to talk about that particular exchange, or Griffin's appearance generally on the show?

Not quite. The invitation is to a breakaway group, the Continuing Anglicans. It will however be interesting to see how this pans out with not just them but mainstream Anglican groups like Forward in Faith (Anglo-Catholics opposed to women bishops and gay clergy); some of them may swim the Tiber...

Don't worry, John, he has form for that kind of thing.

I'm really in two minds about this. I don't know how things are in the States but over here you often get groups of young men who beat up gays (and lesbians on occasions too) for no reason other than they are gay. So I think that having an extra deterrent in terms of sentence for those sort of...

Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize Nope, not a joke. Not quite sure why since, as far as I can tell, he hasn't actually done anything yet. It seems to be on the basis that he might vaguely want to do something but, on those grounds, surely most of us qualify?

It's nothing terribly new. In an earlier incarnation, I was married to a Russian and, right from the fall of communism, there were some people, mainly old but not exclusively, who were banging on about who great communism had been and Stalin was a good egg, just the sort of chap we need now to...

So, did the Holy Spirit go to sleep on the job for 1500 years?

Herewith, dear boy

Exactly.:thumbs:

Warning: spoilers! . . . . . . . . . . . . John Sim is returning as the Master to be in on DT's Dr's demise in a two-part Christmas special

Even if he did come to salvation, there's still the human debt to his victim and wider society to be paid, which is best served in jail for that sort of offence. One of the fruits of his salvation would surely be turning himself in to human justice...?

Not for 'all generations', she isn't.

OK. Are we able to agree on the 'mother of God' definition as qualified by my post on the first page?

No, she didn't save or create you or me. But she is "blessed amongst women" and, like I said, I'd be pretty brassed off if people wanted to know me but didn't like or ignored my mother.

This European for one supports his extradition to the States - he needs to do his time for the crime plus a bit added on for absconding. The fact that his victim has withdrawn the complaint is irrelevant since his guilty plea already lies on the court record. All that's required now is the...

There's also the (rather tongue-in-cheek-but-with-a-serious-edge-to-it) point that it's a bit cheeky to say we love Jesus but say we don't give a fig about His Mom...

I think it would be helpful, picking up where Annsni and I left off in the last thread, if we define what we mean by 'mother'. For me and for the purpose of Mary's 'title', 'mother' (of God) simply means she was pregnant with, gave birth to and raised God (the Son, not any other member of the...