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And you're continuing to ignore the point that an ectopic embryo is quite simply non-viable. You might as well demand that an anencephalic foetus be 'saved'.

Several have died already and the toll is expected to rise. The islanders (both Western and American Samoa) are overwhelmingly Christian. so lets lift up our brothers and sisters in prayer

:thumbsup: A cogent and thoughtful post, Ann. Thank you.

That must have been the one I knew who said that she never married because she was 'saving herself for Jesus'. I just remember thinking 'poor Jesus - hasn't the poor guy suffered enough already'!

Like I said, debt repaid; the balance is re-set. And like I also said, Parisians insult everyone; they are just plain grumpy so-and-so's.

And if it wasn't for Lafayette and Co, you guys would probably still be drinking tea and playing cricket not baseball...:p Fair exchange and all that...

Parisians are rude to everyone. That's just them; Americans shoudn't take it personally.

And then there was Father Bourne who was an excellent shot with the chalk....not to mention the blackboard rubber....ouch!

Well, if you want to talk about racial tolerance, we had a mixed-race Prime Minister as long ago as 1812...

:laugh: How did you guess?! We didn't have nuns but we had mad priests and monks who were deemed by the diocese to be psychologically unfit for parish work...so they put them in charge of teaching boys - what could possibly go wrong? "Fatal beatings all round, chaps!"

Um...I think you meant capital punishment?Corporal punishment is rarely fatal...unless you went to the same school as me...:eek:

By your definition, then, a soldier commits murder every time he successfully obeys an order to kill his country's enemies. There are many forms of killing which are not murder.

'Justified murder' is a legal oxymoron. It's either murder, manslaughter or not homicide at all on the grounds of self-defence; IMO the ectopic pregnancy sounds more like the latter.

No, but what about the pregnancy for one so young? Which child's life are we talking about here?

The term 'liberal' has to be one of the most confusing words ever! Its meaning varies both temporally and spatially. It varies temporally in that its original meaning stems from the French Revolution, with its connotations of liberty, greater freedom for the individual and an opposition to...

What Thinkingstuff said. Mary gave birth to God the Son and raised Him as her own child. Therefore she is rightly referred to as theotokos = God-bearer ie: she who gave birth to God. That doesn't mean that the Second Person of the Godhead , the Eternal Word, didn't have an existence prior to His...

You're conflating 'beginning' with 'birth', I believe.

So are you saying Jesus isn't God?

Er...yes they do: the OFSTED inspectors do interview a random selection of pupils and ask them questions like that. I know this in part because one of my good friends from church is an OFSTED inspector.

LOL - we think it's the other way round! But - serious point - schools as educational establishments in the UK are subject to rigorous inspections by the likes of OFSTED - and rightly so (one of the first things my wife and I did when deciding which school to send our son to was to look at...