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    Confused Redemption

    Our third Greek word, "Hytron" is also a noun, G3083, but is used only to refer to the ransom and does not convey the idea of resulting in the release. Both in Matthew 20:28 and in Mark 10:45 the word is used to refer to the ransom payment, Christ giving His physical life as a ransom for many...
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    Confused Redemption

    Now let us look at the verb, "Hytroo" (G3084) and is used to indicate the action of payment of a ransom, or the action of obtaining release by payment of a ransom. In Luke 24:21 the word is used to obtain the release or deliverance of Israel. In Titus 2:14 again the idea is to redeem as the...
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    Does False Teaching Really Matter?

    Yet another ad homenim post, addressing none of the OP content, but full of false claims concerning the poster. This is all those copy and pasting centuries old arguments can offer, as scripture clearly precludes their false doctrines. Many seek God at one time or another, the none ever seek...
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    Confused Redemption

    This morning I listened, on the radio, to the late John Mac Arthur on the meaning of redemption. I hold a differing view. Like many other confused NT concepts, the confusion arises from the translation, or mistranslation of a Greek word with two related meanings. For example, in Luke 1:68...
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    Does False Teaching Really Matter?

    1) It does not matter if you are unaware of those who claim people are compelled to believe, no matter the message. It is a valid statement. 2) We agree, the message of the gospel must not be "another gospel" that prevents those seeking entry into the kingdom from going in. 3) Yes, if a...
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    Chosen in Him

    2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 describes our actual individual election for salvation during our lifetime when God credits our "faith in the truth" and sanctifies us by transferring us out of the realm of darkness and into Christ, Colossians 1:13. Thus we once, before our election were children of...
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    Does False Teaching Really Matter?

    Have you ever seen someone claim our righteousness is imputed. That of course is the vague phraseology pushing false doctrine. God declares or credits our faith in Christ as righteousness, and so our faith has "imputed" righteousness. But does that cause us to be the righteousness of God...
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    What is Propitiation and is it really the heart of the gospel?

    Jesus Christ is the place of reconciliation, if you have been placed into Christ, you have been reconciled. If not, you are a condemned sinner heading for swift destruction. Jesus Christ is the means of reconciliation, if you have not received the reconciliation, you are a condemned sinner...
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    A Clarification Is Needed...

    Why do some Bible Study threads seem to focus not on understanding specific scripture, but rather on the conjecture of people? The issue, at least initially seemed to be conjecture about God's purpose, other than His stated purpose, in creating the planets and moons of our solar system. But...
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    What is Propitiation and is it really the heart of the gospel?

    Propitiation is an English word used to translated two different Greek words in the NASB. The Greek words refer to the place of reconciliation, which of course is spiritually within Christ, and the means of reconciliation, which of course was provided by Christ's substitutionary death on the cross.
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    Does False Teaching Really Matter?

    They seem to say the message does not matter, but scripture is clear, we are to present the pure gospel of Christ. They are doubling down on the false doctrine that false teachers and false teaching do not matter. But if the message is not key, why is it that people entering the kingdom were...
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    Does False Teaching Really Matter?

    Once again we see a change the subject post. Did I not say Jesus Christ saves? Yes of course I did. Christians should stick with what they first believed in, "for God so loved the world (all of mankind) that He gave His uniquely divine Son so that whoever (and God has not foreordained who can...
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    Does False Teaching Really Matter?

    LOL, did I even address whether or not those holding and advocating false doctrines care about false teaching? Nope - so a strawman hoisted to change the subject. So typical of those unwilling or unable to defend their doctrines which are obviously false.
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    Does False Teaching Really Matter?

    Ad homenim response, demonstrating biblical illiteracy. Nothing was actually addressed, let alone rebutted. But the ol "reverse the charges" ploy of false teachers is evident, where I am charged with their malfeasance. Go figure.
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    Does False Teaching Really Matter?

    According to at least one widely held Christian view, it does not matter whether the gospel is presented accurately or not, no human being is able to respond to it appropriately anyway; as everyone in their natural fallen state suffers from total spiritual inability. Then, again according to...
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    Chosen in Him

    Some folks explain being chosen in Him as meaning we were chosen as specific foreseen individuals in anticipation of the salvation that would be available “in Him.” This seems to me to be an unnatural reading of the text. Rather the phrase “in Him” seems to me to describe how we were chosen...
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    A Chosen People

    1 Peter 2:9 indicates born anew believers are a chosen people. Some seem to think this refers to God's corporate election of the descendants (seed) of Abraham, i.e. the nation of Israel. However Paul makes clear, when viewed through the lens of the New Covenant, not all the descendants are...
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    Understanding Hilasterion

    If we compare Luke 18:13 and Hebrews 2:17, both using "Hilaskomal" (G2433) as a verb, we see both could be translated as "provide reconciliation." If we compare Romans 3:25 and Hebrews 9:5, both using "Hilasterion" (G2435) as a noun, we see both could be translated as the "place of...
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    Understanding Hilasterion

    Before we even think about studying hilasterion and the related words hilaskomai and hilasmos, we must address the three cornerstone words of salvation - propitiation, the means of reconciliation, redemption, the act of spiritual transfer into Christ and reconciliation, the result of...
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    Strange man threatens theological education

    Nice post! In a similar vein, we had a young man who thought he should go to seminary and become "qualified" to lead others within the body of Christ. I did not consider myself "qualified" to attempt an intervention, where I would suggest he pursue another way to serve Christ. So he went to...
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