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You keep trumpeting the KJV but it is not the standard you should be holding to. We have many manuscripts and they have been used by many scholars to reconstruct the bible as it was handed down. The KJV while good was not the best. You continue to miss what the NET notes say. But then again I...

You keep going back to that one line of transmission and treat the KJV line as if it were the gold standard. There in lays the problem. We did not have a clear line of transmission. The reconstructed versions you listed [note I did not list any versions @Alan Dale Gross did] do not simply...

The body /church is made up of many members but Christ is the head. Eph_5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. NASB Col_1:18 He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the...

The difference is the underlying manuscripts that are used. Unless you think they received the text by divine inspiration. The original text is correct. So for you to claim that your preferred bibles are correct requires you to make assumptions. You are correct when you say the issue is what...

@Alan Dale Gross re your comparison between the KJV and what you see as errant texts it actually comes down to which line of manuscripts that were used. Pro 11:30 The fruit of the righteous is like N103 a tree producing life, N104 and the one who wins souls N105 is wise. N106 NET N105 tc The...

Interesting article. Skeptic's could find it helpful.

Thank you Ben you have finally done what I have been trying to get you to do. You have dealt with Gen 1:2. But you have still not accounted for formless and void or for that matter how long the Holy Spirit swept over the waters prior to God say "Let there be light" Please note what it says...

Did not say it could not but how does that fit with Gen 1:2 since it is mentioned prior to Gen 1:3-31. Gen 1:2 the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters. Gen 1:3 Then God said, "Let there be light"; and...

Actually what it says is that He made the seas. The water was already there see Gen 1:6.

We both agree that God created we just do not agree on Gen 1:2. But then again better men than us have disagreed on this for quite a while.

Just as Gen 1:3-31 says but that still does not alter the reality of Gen 1:2. I have heard you. You hold to a YEC view. But you stll have not dealt with Gen 1:2 I have not denied creation as we see it in Gen 1:3-31 but you still have not dealt with Gen 1:2. It seems you do not have an answer...

Now you are just grasping at straws. Who said light is not fully functioning. But I do not have to make up things to support a view as you are doing.

I have read what you posted but just because you post it does not make it true. But then again you have not listened to anything that I have posted so I could say the same thing to you that it might someday register what I have said.

The OP asked if God had purposefully designed humans with a fatal flaw? Did you not say that man has a free will and that God draws man to Himself in your response to the OP. So my response to you and also responded to the OP. Now if you want to see it as dealing with C/A then you are reading...

Of course creation is supernatural. What do you think I have been saying all along? I have just been pointing out flaws as I see them in the YEC view.

Ben have you actually read and understood what I have posted? Have I said that God did not create in six days? Creation is stated clearly in Gen 1:3-31. I have asked you more than once where you see any time expressed in vs 2 and you do not give any answer. Why would you not answer the...

@Ben1445 when have I disagreed with Gen 1:3-31? Or with Exo 20:11? Gen 1:3-31 and Exo 20:11 are not the issue Ben. I have looked at Exo 20:11 and it still does not deal with Gen 1:2 Please show me the time element in these words Gen 1:2 Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was...

As you said God draws man to Himself, He does not cause them to either believe or not believe. So man uses his God given free will to make the choice to either trust in or reject God.

@Ben1445 & @360watt you both hold to the YEC thus you hold that the earth is only approx. 6000 years old. Early Human Settlements (Around 10,000 Years Ago) Çatalhöyük: A very large Neolithic proto-city in Turkey that dates back roughly 9,500 years. Jericho: One of the world's oldest...

If God decreed that animals die prior to the fall how is that not good? And from scripture what do you base your position on?