65% of white democrats don't believe in all knowing all powerful all loving God

[Calminian]

You can speak out against corruption based on the Ten Commandments alone. You don't nee politics.

So it's bad to violate the 10 commandments, unless you do it politically. Then it's okay. Ouch! How did you fall into this?

 

[1689Dave]

It's not about politics. It's about morality and you can't separate morality from politics.

Condemn sin based on the bible. Let people sort out what political system best serves their beliefs.

 

[Calminian]

I think we speak the same as long as we remain politically neutral.....

i.e. morally neutral. That's your message. Moral neutrality. You can sin, so long as it's political sin.

This is not of Christ.

 

[1689Dave]

So it's bad to violate the 10 commandments, unless you do it politically. Then it's okay. Ouch! How did you fall into this?

No, because all political parties are polluted with sin being man made.

 

[Calminian]

Condemn sin based on the bible. Let people sort out what political system best serves their beliefs.

Unless it's political. Then you can't say anything. That is your message. It's not of Christ.

 

[1689Dave]

i.e. morally neutral. That's your message. Moral neutrality. You can sin, so long as it's political sin.

This is not of Christ.

Which came first? The Ten Commandments or America's political landscape?

 

[Calminian]

No, because all political parties are polluted with sin being man made.

Hmmm. You just got political. You broke your own rule. I though you weren't allowed to politicize anything.

 

[1689Dave]

Unless it's political. Then you can't say anything. That is your message. It's not of Christ.

Leave politics out of it and preach the gospel. It will yield better results.

 

[church mouse guy]

But, the gospel is different from politics. The gospel actually works if you don't drive people away first with politics.

I think with your preaching at your church, they would have to serve pizza to keep people around, no?

 

[Calminian]

Which came first? The Ten Commandments or America's political landscape?

Nations and governments actually preceded the 10 commandments. God back and read Genesis 10. The nations were created by God, and their governments ordained by God (Romans 13). They were given authority and a specific purpose.

 

[Calminian]

Leave politics out of it and preach the gospel. It will yield better results.

But you're seeking on politics now.

 

[1689Dave]

Hmmm. You just got political. You broke your own rule. I though you weren't allowed to politicize anything.

This is what the bible says. If the political parties had their way, they would affirm themselves good.

 

[1689Dave]

But you're seeking on politics now.

I've always said leave politics out of it if you want to represent Christ and not yourself.

 

[Calminian]

The gospel apart from the context of sin is a false gospel.

 

[Calminian]

This is what the bible says. If the political parties had their way, they would affirm themselves good.

Where does the Bible say this?

 

[1689Dave]

Nations and governments actually preceded the 10 commandments. God back and read Genesis 10. The nations were created by God, and their governments ordained by God (Romans 13). They were given authority and a specific purpose.

Where do you see the early Church embracing political views?

 

[Calminian]

I've always said leave politics out of it if you want to represent Christ and not yourself.

That's political. You said leave politics out of it.

Now that I think about it, your argument is self defeating.

 

[1689Dave]

Where does the Bible say this?

“But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these things defile a person. For out of the heart come evil ideas, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are the things that defile a person; it is not eating with unwashed hands that defiles a person.”” (Matthew 15:18–20) (NET)

 

[1689Dave]

That's political. You said leave politics out of it.

No, it is apolitical. Leaving politics out of your profession of Christ.

 

[Calminian]

Where do you see the early Church embracing political views?

Where do you see them preaching political neutrality?

I see Paul speaking about politics in Romans 13. He also referred to his Roman citizenship often, and even used Roman law to rebuke his jailers.