65% of white democrats don't believe in all knowing all powerful all loving God

[1689Dave]

Which has what to do with politics ?

Forced morality (doesn't work). VS Christian morality from a changed heart (actually works).

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Politics is forced morality ?

Once I couldn’t taste my coffee. So I turned my TV down.

 

[1689Dave]

Which has what to do with politics ?

Forced morality. Christ does not use politics to convert people.

 

[1689Dave]

Politics is forced morality ?

Law = forced morality.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Just curious. Would refusing to let a woman preach in your church be a political issue ? Would it drive people away ?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Should preachers encourage their congregation to get off welfare ?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Should preachers tell their congregation how damaging unwed motherhood has been to our nation ?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Should preachers talk about corruption in to local city administration ?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Answer those four and we can move on.

 

[1689Dave]

Just curious. Would refusing to let a woman preach in your church be a political issue ? Would it drive people away ?

No, because the bible teaches this. But do we evangelize with it? Of course not. Neither do we evangelize by bolstering one political party over another.

 

[1689Dave]

Should preachers tell their congregation how damaging unwed motherhood has been to our nation ?

Of course, but in Christ's name only, and not in the name of politics.

 

[1689Dave]

Should preachers talk about corruption in to local city administration ?

I believe it is good to expose corruption, if we do not politicise it, and treat all corruption with the same fairness.

 

[Calminian]

Forced morality. Christ does not use politics to convert people.

Nor does he abandon morality. Christ uses truth including the truth about morality. If you abandon morality you abandon truth. If you abandon truth, you abandon the gospel.

 

[1689Dave]

Answer those four and we can move on.

Thanks for keeping this interesting. It's a good way to evaluate our beliefs.

 

[Calminian]

I believe it is good to expose corruption, if we do not politicise it, and treat all corruption with the same fairness.

In other words, corruption is wrong, unless it's political corruption. Then it's okay.

I can't think of a more twisted confusing message. You'll lose seekers left and right with this message. Those truly seeking will move on to preachers willing to tell them the truth.

You'll be left with those seeking to have their itching ears tickled.

 

[1689Dave]

Nor does he abandon morality. Christ uses truth including the truth about morality. If you abandon morality you abandon truth. If you abandon truth, you abandon the gospel.

But, the gospel is different from politics. The gospel actually works if you don't drive people away first with politics.

 

[1689Dave]

In other words, corruption is wrong, unless it's political corruption. Then it's okay.

I can't think of a more twisted confusing message. You'll lose seekers left and right with this message.

You can speak out against corruption based on the Ten Commandments alone. You don't nee politics.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Ok. So I gave you many examples of things people on the outside could view as political messages and at the least, are very divisive issues. By your awnwers I can only conclude that you agree with me, that if a truthful sermon touches a political nerve in a listener, it’s on the listener and the preacher should not worry about the receptions of his congregation, or any human criticism at all for that matter, and let the Holy Spirit lead him.

 

[Calminian]

But, the gospel is different from politics. The gospel actually works if you don't drive people away first with politics.

It's not about politics. It's about morality and you can't separate morality from politics.

 

[1689Dave]

Ok. So I gave you many examples of things people on the outside could view as political messages and at the least, are very divisive issues. By your awnwers I can only conclude that you agree with me, that if a truthful sermon touches a political nerve in a listener, it’s on the listener and the preacher should not worry about the receptions of his congregation, or any human criticism at all for that matter, and let the Holy Spirit lead him.

I think we speak the same as long as we remain politically neutral. Then everyone listens to us. Drag politics into it, and we're back preaching to the choir.