A question about Calvinisum

Both of us understand that one must believe and have faith in order to be saved Bob. I asked if you thought that the act of belief is an exercise of the will? Yes or no will do.

 

I said "I" reformed, what else do you want? It was my choice to choose good over evil. As in the past, it was my choice not to kill anyone, it was my choice not to commit adultery, it was my choice to believe God, it was my choice to take heed to the Spirit of God etc.

You still didn't answer my question?

Do you believe that the vast majority of God's creation will not have their hearts regenerated by God because He chooses not to regenerate them?? Now step up to the plate.

 

Then you think its ok to post from the OT?
BTW...What does concubines have to do with anything I have said or anything about this thread?

 

Ok, i'll take that as a yes. You didn't say yes, but that will do.

Lets get this straight. You say that belief is an exercise of the will. You say one has to believe before he can be born again. God's Word says John 1:12. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, {even} to those who believe in His name,
13. who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

God said it I didn't. I agree with Him however. Grace and peace

 

They are not legal before God for us to have them today, but seems most of them you are quoting had them.

 

I believe all men would go to hell. Every last one of them...if it were not for the mercy of God to save some.

 

reformed; I believe every word of that. No problem at all. Believing is not the "new birth", but it must take place before you get it.

 

God's Word says; John 15: 16. "You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and {that} your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you.

 

James, I laugh till it hurts when I watch you twist words. I ask you a specific question. Either answer it or not.

You still didn't answer my question?

Do you believe that the vast majority of God's creation will not have their hearts regenerated by God because He chooses not to regenerate them?? Now step up to the plate.

 

Amen brother! If it was by my will that I was saved..... I'd still be headed to hell.

 

Yea, I believe that too reformed. You know I believe scripture. I believed so God chose me. You don't see Him choosing any infidels, do you?


You still haven't answered my question?

Do you believe that the vast majority of God's creation will not have their hearts regenerated by God because He chooses not to regenerate them?? Now step up to the plate.
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Are you saying because someone had a concubine we should not quote them???? :laugh:

You just made another line in the book..."yes he really said that"

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So...you better edit your web site...

 

I'll answer you Bob. Using your faulty theology that one has to believe before they can be regenerated, and the fact that the majority of mankind will not believe, I think God chooses to not save them. There ya go!:thumbsup:

 

I don't know if it's a "vast majority" that God has chosen to face justice, but the real question is why would he choose to regenerate any of them?

Answer: Unspeakable mercy.

 

Are you kidding, I kinda like that. I even like the way you switch it from the concubines to me.

 

Does God choose not to regenerate their hearts so they can escape hell?

You didn't answer either but made a statement as the others.

 

I am glad to see you boys all together tonight. It shows real love. I think that is good.

 

I don't know of any reputable theologian, C or NonC, that does not accept regeneration as synonymous with the new birth. Look at the words:

re/generation
born/again

See any similarity?

One might think of the Calvinistic view of regeneration as the pre-conversion work of the Holy Spirit.

Don't you have to admit that the Holy Spirit convicts the heart of sin? Does conviction come before or after conversion? It can't be denied - it comes before.

The wind (pnuema, spirit) bloweth where it listeth (wills)...

 

Allen, also bear in mind that when we speak of regeneration preceeding conversion, it is a logical precedence (although some believe in a chronological preceding). I think most Calvinists hold to regeneration and conversion being chronologically simultaneous. In any case, regeneration is the fuel which causes the "burn" of conversion.

 

If they are not His sheep.