a sitting member of Congress suggest that his constituents should take up arms against the president

[FollowTheWay]

Prove that I support that. Otherwise you are guilty of being a false witness.

So you will state that you always opposed the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Good. I'm waiting.

 

[Wingman68]

So let me get this straight, a nut with a rifle shoots up a baseball team and therefore it was a leftwing Democrat conspiracy? Did it say that on the investigation report?

Yes, it did. Try to keep up.

 

[Revmitchell]

So you will state that you always opposed the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Good. I'm waiting.

Uh no, you can continue to wait. You made a claim about me now show me the proof.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Yes. Let's require proof on both sides. I've repeatedly stated my position on abortion and yet these liars keep revcersing it.

That is fine with me.....look, I just got upset with someone & called him a A/H however I haven't called someone a Neo NazI ......thats pushing it brother. I guess liar is OK in certain times. Its kinda funny that BB abhors vulgarities....even suggested ones, but names like Nazi & White Supremacist go unnoticed. A/H I can let pass but NAZI, them is fighting words....at least to me.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Yes, it did. Try to keep up.

OK show me.

 

[Wingman68]

OK show me.

You’re the one who seems uneducated on the matter, how about if you do your own work. BTW, I said it was a dim, you extrapolated that to a conspiracy. Games people play.......

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

You’re the one who seems uneducated on the matter, how about if you do your own work. BTW, I said it was a dim, you extrapolated that to a conspiracy. Games people play.......

So in other words you don’t back up your claims. Very well now you are not credible.

 

[Wingman68]

So in other words you don’t back up your claims. Very well now you are not credible.

Let’s see, isn’t this where you say something like, ‘go chase yourself’? Yeah, that.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Let’s see, isn’t this where you say something like, ‘go chase yourself’? Yeah, that.

I looked into it.... the guy was just a nut with an AR15. Just ask Stevie S ... sure he will testify to it. Just another nut with a gun. Now you could go chase yourself

 

[Wingman68]

I looked into it.... the guy was just a nut with an AR15. Just ask Stevie S ... sure he will testify to it. Just another nut with a gun. Now you could go chase yourself

Notice how I went to the trouble of finding some normally left sites for you.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/steve-scalise-shot-alexandria-virginia.html

Gunman who shot Steve Scalise cased baseball field for weeks before rampage

Man who shot Scalise had list of GOPers in pocket during rampage

You may recall Rand Paul was also at the shooting, & then was later attacked in his own yard by another unhinged dim neighbor.

 

[Adonia]

If you don't care about the poor in your heart then cdut them off. That's against my faith.

I care about the poor by donating to charities from my heart and my own pocketbook, and if the government let me keep more of my own money I would donate even more.

Also, is it part of your faith that you like your tax dollars going to a business that slices and dices human babies in the womb?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Notice how I went to the trouble of finding some normally left sites for you.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/steve-scalise-shot-alexandria-virginia.html

Gunman who shot Steve Scalise cased baseball field for weeks before rampage

Man who shot Scalise had list of GOPers in pocket during rampage

You may recall Rand Paul was also at the shooting, & then was later attacked in his own yard by another unhinged dim neighbor.

Unhinged is the operative word... For example, Stephen Paddock... no strong political affiliations

What We Know About Las Vegas Gunman Stephen Paddock

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I care about the poor by donating to charities from my heart and my own pocketbook, and if the government let me keep more of my own money I would donate even more.

Also, is it part of your faith that you like your tax dollars going to a business that slices and dices human babies in the womb?

What business does that? Are you referencing Planned Parenthood? Have you kept up with the Omnibus Bill?

 

[Matt Black]

I care about the poor by donating to charities from my heart and my own pocketbook, and if the government let me keep more of my own money I would donate even more.

Trouble is history tells us that doesn't work. Try reading some Dickens for some examples of how it doenst work. Hence the necessity of the Welfare State.

Also, is it part of your faith that you like your tax dollars going to a business that slices and dices human babies in the womb?

No more than it's a part of my faith that I like my taxes going to a military industrial complex that kills Iraqi and Yemeni children

 

[Matt Black]

My friend, a Christian world would not require the government to assist the poor, it would see that as an opportunity to display the Love of Christ to the least. Unfortunately, Christian charity does not have enough adherents to make that possible. We Christians all need to work on that... otherwise we have to rely on the government . So if you want to ask a probing question, ask who American Christians give our allegiance to.... either the government or our God? Do we want government in our lives? Welfare is nothing but government controlling the lives of a portion of our American citizenry... ie Marxism... so if we as followers of Christ allow the Marxists in, shame on us.

As I said, solely Christian charity has been tried before and found sadly wanting. Until we have a Christian society then the government has to fill the gaps: that's not Marxism just common sense.

 

[Matt Black]

Giving an unending supply of money to the poor with no plan to help them become self sufficient is not pro life its pro government. Life has nothing to do with what the extreme far left wants. Anyone who supports abortion for any reason at all or supports a party whose platform supports abortion does in fact support the slaughter of unborn children.

So many errors here...where to start? First it's not an 'unending supply ' of money; in this country it isn't nearly enough which is why our healthcare system is failing because it and other public sector services have been cut to beyond the bone. Secondly, it doesn't encourage dependence except for a small minority and I'd rather spend a few bob on the so called 'undeserving poor' than risk penalizing this genuinely in need. Lastly (again), perhaps most importantly, I don't support abortion

 

[Matt Black]

So let's take them one by one, and I will try to be consistent here.

1. Law enforcement. The constitution does not authorize unlimited Federal law enforcement over the whole nation, that is something that should be left to the individual states. A case could be made concerning national security issues (things concerning national defense) , but like everything else the Feds have gone into local jurisdictions where they should not be.

2. Defense. This is a legitimate Federal power according to the Constitution, I have absolute no problem with spending money here.

3. Roads. The only constitutional authorization for roads are for postal roads and military roads, all other roads should be left to private enterprise or the individual states to build.

I have no problem with helping the poor via Public Health hospitals that deal with communicable diseases. These institutions have existed from the early years of our nation and serve the common good. What we have today is quite different than that.

So this is your answer to EW&F's question: for you it's the Constitution that's supreme,.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

As I said, solely Christian charity has been tried before and found sadly wanting. Until we have a Christian society then the government has to fill the gaps: that's not Marxism just common sense.

If you were ever in welfare, the state owns you and that is Marxism

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Have you ever read the government of the Roman Cato the Elder, he was frightening to the rich....ie he taxed luxury thus he could feed the poor. And in Cato’s eyes there were allot of luxuries.... he lived a very simple life himself and that became his guideline.

 

[church mouse guy]

The Brits need to send all their immigrants to Germany where they have big bucks for welfare.