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a sitting member of Congress suggest that his constituents should take up arms against the president

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Matt Black

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This is it folks, this is all the progressive far left wing extremists have in response to supporting a platform of slaughtering unborn children. Sad.
(a) I don't support the murder of unborn children (b) you're "this is all" says it all: "this is all" is actually quite a bit - you can't really claim to be pro-life AND support the sort of policies that FTW highlights; 'pro-birth' maybe
 

Matt Black

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Surely you jest! We pay for more programs for the poor and needy than just about any nation on this earth. You can have kid after kid and the government stills pays you a stipend (Welfare), gives you food (WIK and SNAP), and gets you a place to live (Section 8 housing). As for Medicaid, your "Dear Leader" Obama stole from that program for his Obamacare boondoggle several years ago., remember?

I am sick and tired of having my money taken from me under the color of the law to give to others and then have people like you say I am not doing enough and that I do not care. Not one bit of that type of spending is authorized by the Federal Constitution in any way, shape, manner, or form.

Jesus wants us to be charitable to others, but the giving must come from one's own heart and pocketbook., not by the controlling and repressive authority of government. The government doing such things on my behalf is not charity, it is theft!
Presumably you would extend your outrage to the government spending your money on your behalf on law enforcement, defence, roads, etc? Or is it just the poor that you don't like it being spent on?
 

church mouse guy

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Matt, I am sure that you want cheap labor. So how can low-paid workers support your imperial welfare state?

How much money did the Russian terrorist attack in Salisbury cost the UK?
 

Matt Black

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The terrorist investigation is ongoing so the books aren't closed. Not sure what point you're trying to make
 

church mouse guy

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The terrorist investigation is ongoing so the books aren't closed. Not sure what point you're trying to make

On the Russian terror attack, it proves the criminality of Putin if there was any doubt. Heard a report that many were contaminated and so I am thinking that the costs are very high. I suspect the chemical used in Salisbury is what has been used in Cuba against the Ladies in White, the leader of whom was murdered by a small scratch or injection in a public street on a Sunday after mass.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Call them the border counties. But then, my perception of geography is colored by the fact I'm a Californian. Denver is East for me.
So it’s all perception. So because I live in the east, quite naturally I’m a Wall Street yuppie from an Ivy League school and rolling in loot. Look, in my neighborhood nobody has money... the old are dying off and the young are struggling. Those who can keep a roof over their heads are lucky. Economic pain is everywhere. Bush killed us, Obama made it worse ... and now we are finding this guy has passed a bill that supports Democrats furthering BOs agenda... more boondoggle.

Schumer said, “It’s a funny thing. In a certain sense, we’re able to accomplish more in the minority than we were when we had the presidency or even were in the majority.” If that statement doesn’t frost you, this obvious gloating, I don’t know what will.
 
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Matt Black

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On the Russian terror attack, it proves the criminality of Putin if there was any doubt. Heard a report that many were contaminated and so I am thinking that the costs are very high. I suspect the chemical used in Salisbury is what has been used in Cuba against the Ladies in White, the leader of whom was murdered by a small scratch or injection in a public street on a Sunday after mass.
It's a Novochok nerve agent and the site may be contaminated for quite a while...
 

church mouse guy

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What a pity.... The UK is certainly on the front lines in the war against terror. On the good side, I read that a British sniper shot a Taliban leader in the head at the distance of one mile in the dark as the terrorist was entering a safe house. That British soldier must be in a category of one in that kind of expertise.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Presumably you would extend your outrage to the government spending your money on your behalf on law enforcement, defence, roads, etc? Or is it just the poor that you don't like it being spent on?
My friend, a Christian world would not require the government to assist the poor, it would see that as an opportunity to display the Love of Christ to the least. Unfortunately, Christian charity does not have enough adherents to make that possible. We Christians all need to work on that... otherwise we have to rely on the government . So if you want to ask a probing question, ask who American Christians give our allegiance to.... either the government or our God? Do we want government in our lives? Welfare is nothing but government controlling the lives of a portion of our American citizenry... ie Marxism... so if we as followers of Christ allow the Marxists in, shame on us.
 

Revmitchell

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(a) I don't support the murder of unborn children (b) you're "this is all" says it all: "this is all" is actually quite a bit - you can't really claim to be pro-life AND support the sort of policies that FTW highlights; 'pro-birth' maybe

Giving an unending supply of money to the poor with no plan to help them become self sufficient is not pro life its pro government. Life has nothing to do with what the extreme far left wants. Anyone who supports abortion for any reason at all or supports a party whose platform supports abortion does in fact support the slaughter of unborn children.
 

Adonia

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Presumably you would extend your outrage to the government spending your money on your behalf on law enforcement, defence, roads, etc? Or is it just the poor that you don't like it being spent on?

So let's take them one by one, and I will try to be consistent here.

1. Law enforcement. The constitution does not authorize unlimited Federal law enforcement over the whole nation, that is something that should be left to the individual states. A case could be made concerning national security issues (things concerning national defense) , but like everything else the Feds have gone into local jurisdictions where they should not be.

2. Defense. This is a legitimate Federal power according to the Constitution, I have absolute no problem with spending money here.

3. Roads. The only constitutional authorization for roads are for postal roads and military roads, all other roads should be left to private enterprise or the individual states to build.

I have no problem with helping the poor via Public Health hospitals that deal with communicable diseases. These institutions have existed from the early years of our nation and serve the common good. What we have today is quite different than that.
 

Wingman68

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To take up arms offensively against a sitting president is a coup. You can't shoot people because you disagree with their politics.
You mean like shooting up a republican congressional baseball team? It got covered over as quickly as possible, so people could forget about the dim shooter. BTW, they usually turn out to be dims, & I think they should all voluntarily turn in their arms. You know, be that shining example.
 

Wingman68

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It was Obama who tried to force everyone in the USA to buy expensive and worthless Obamacare insurance. He is the # 1 candidate for dictator. We now know that he spied on everyday citizens right and left in violation of law.
He closed down car dealerships that were republican owned. What does a dealership have to do with the auto bailout?! They get government money? I don’t think so.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Giving an unending supply of money to the poor with no plan to help them become self sufficient is not pro life its pro government. Life has nothing to do with what the extreme far left wants. Anyone who supports abortion for any reason at all or supports a party whose platform supports abortion does in fact support the slaughter of unborn children.
And so what do you think about Trump signing off on the omnibus plan?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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You mean like shooting up a republican congressional baseball team? It got covered over as quickly as possible, so people could forget about the dim shooter. BTW, they usually turn out to be dims, & I think they should all voluntarily turn in their arms. You know, be that shining example.
So let me get this straight, a nut with a rifle shoots up a baseball team and therefore it was a leftwing Democrat conspiracy? Did it say that on the investigation report?
 

FollowTheWay

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This is it folks, this is all the progressive far left wing extremists have in response to supporting a platform of slaughtering unborn children. Sad.
Why do you support murdering innocent non-combatants in meaningless wars like Afghanistan and Iraq and taking away much needed food and medical care from the needy? Read MAT 25.
 

FollowTheWay

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Surely you jest! We pay for more programs for the poor and needy than just about any nation on this earth. You can have kid after kid and the government stills pays you a stipend (Welfare), gives you food (WIK and SNAP), and gets you a place to live (Section 8 housing). As for Medicaid, your "Dear Leader" Obama stole from that program for his Obamacare boondoggle several years ago., remember?

I am sick and tired of having my money taken from me under the color of the law to give to others and then have people like you say I am not doing enough and that I do not care. Not one bit of that type of spending is authorized by the Federal Constitution in any way, shape, manner, or form.

Jesus wants us to be charitable to others, but the giving must come from one's own heart and pocketbook., not by the controlling and repressive authority of government. The government doing such things on my behalf is not charity, it is theft!
If you don't care about the poor in your heart then cdut them off. That's against my faith.
 
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