A VERY DARK Day for the USA!

[Walter]

So let mass murder of the unborn continue, and let immoral living continue unchecked, because we should not be concerned.

Republicans had the house, senate and WH for the first years of Trumps presidency. Just what did they do to stop slaughter of innocent children???

 

[SavedByGrace]

Republicans had the house, senate and WH for the first years of Trumps presidency. Just what did they do to stop slaughter of innocent children???

Trump Signs Law Taking Aim at Planned Parenthood Funding (Published 2017)

Trump promises ‘born alive’ executive order in appeal to anti-abortion voters

 

[Quantrill]

You're someone who wasted a vote on an incompetent Trump...you aren't the expert on logic.

And logic dictated that the disciples and believers wasted their time in following Jesus Christ, since he was crucified as a criminal and hanged on a tree.

So, did you waste your time in following Christ?....Or should I ask, do you follow Christ?

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

It will not be done. The World is already condemned. We do not judge those outside.

Christians need to stop trying to redeem sin and focus on the gospel.

You want 'Christians' to focus on the Gospel and not politics and the heathen focus on politics.

Strange.

Quantrill

 

[JonC]

So it is wrong for Christians to be judges or law enforcement officers

The early church thought so. I think it is a question for each person.

 

[Quantrill]

The early church thought so. I think it is a question for each person.

Where?

Quantrill

 

[JonC]

You want 'Christians' to focus on the Gospel and not politics and the heathen focus on politics.

Strange.

Quantrill

Yes. I believe the Kingdom of God is not of this World, that Christians are called "out of" the World to be a separate people.

This is strange, I agree. It goes against "human wisdom" and is foolish to many.

 

[Quantrill]

Yes. I believe the Kingdom of God is not of this World, that Christians are called "out of" the World to be a separate people.

Yet God judges the goat and sheep nations. Why?

If the believer shouldn't care if his nation is a sheep or goat, why does God judge the nations?

Quantrill

 

[JonC]

Where?

Quantrill

What do you mean "where"? Where is it not?

Read Tertullian. Better yet, read Paul's words to the Christians in Corinth.

 

[Quantrill]

What do you mean "where"? Where is it not?

Read Tertullian. Better yet, read Paul's words to the Christians in Corinth.

You said the early church thought so. I'm asking where? Of course I am interested in the Bible.

So, you have something in (Corinthians). Good. Where?

Quantrill

 

[JonC]

Yet God judges the goat and sheep nations. Why?

If the believer shouldn't care if his nation is a sheep or goat, why does God judge the nations?

Quantrill

No, He does not. Where on earth did you get the idea that there are goat and sheep nations?

The World has already been judged. It is condemned. On "that day" God will separate His people from the Workd in exercising judgment as a Shepherd separates sheep from goats and a farmer tares from wheat.

Are you claiming to be God?

 

[JonC]

You said the early church thought so. I'm asking where? Of course I am interested in the Bible.

So, you have something in (Corinthians). Good. Where?

Quantrill

I already told you. Read Tertullian for a start. Read Corinthians for a start (passage already quoted).

Or you can, having set your hand upon the plow, turn back....but I caution against it.

 

[Quantrill]

No, He does not. Where on earth did you get the idea that there are goat and sheep nations?

The World has already been judged. It is condemned. On "that day" God will separate His people from the Workd in exercising judgment as a Shepherd separates sheep from goats and a farmer tares from wheat.

Are you claiming to be God?

(Matt. 25:32-33)

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

I already told you. Read Tertullian for a start. Read Corinthians for a start (passage already quoted).

Or you can, having set your hand upon the plow, turn back....but I caution against it.

You said you have something in (Corinthians). Show me. I am interested.

Oh, I see...you have nothing. Smoke.

Quantrill

 

[JonC]

You said you have something in (Corinthians). Show me. I am interested.

Oh, I see...you have nothing. Smoke.

Quantrill

I do. Paul said that we are not to judge the world.

This is the teach a man to fish principle.

 

[JonC]

I concluded that you are anti American

@robustheologian is not anti-American, he is anti-status quo American. I can't blame him for that.

Consider all of these posts talking about how much America was, in the past, based on Christian values. Then consider that those values were manifested in racism - the KKK and Black Panther rallies of the 70's, discrimination against mixed marriages......and before that Black water fountains, White restaurants, lynchings.....and before that slavery.

Consider now that many believe two and a half centuries of overt racism was instantly cured by the stroke of a pen.

I disagree with @robustheologian not because I doubt his loyalty or his assessment of the GOP. I disagree with him because I do not believe he sees the sin of his own party.

But he is not anti-American. (He may be anti-some people's idea of America, and he may be right).

 

[Reynolds]

You're someone who wasted a vote on an incompetent Trump...you aren't the expert on logic.

Does not take an expert to recognize you are full of horse hockey.

 

[JonC]

(Matt. 25:32-33)

Quantrill

Exactly and amen. All people will be gathered and God will separate them. But there is only one race that will be separated from the rest. This is Hod's people, a chosen race, a priesthood of believers.

So you need to choose the people (race or nation) to which you will belong. Do you want to join the people who will be condemned (the World) or God's people?

You cannot do both. Chose who you will follow. It is that simple.

 

[JonC]

"Celsus also urges us to " take office in the government of the country, if that is required for the maintenance of the laws and the support of religion. " But we recognise in each state the existence of another national organization, founded by the Word of God...they rule in accordance with the divine commands, and never suffer themselves to be led astray by worldly policy. And it is not for the purpose of escaping public duties that Christians decline public offices, but that they may reserve themselves for a diviner and more necessary service in the Church of God— for the salvation of men." (From Contra Celsum)

 

[Iconoclast]

Considering that I said I support it as much as MAGA nation supports racism and bigotry. So you're saying MAGA supports racism and bigotry?

Someone asked you for direct examples of this support of racism and bigotry, have you given any? Those things are sin. Are you suggesting the minorities cannot commit those sins?