Acts 2.38 is to Israel not gentiles

[Barry Johnson]

False statement, by nature all men are lost, jew and gentile?

Lost refers to having been already found . Israel is Gods first born son ,who went astray. Gentiles have never been ' found ' nor lost .

 

[Barry Johnson]

No but John 10 is where Jesus clarified specifically who He died for, take heed.

Try the clear verses AFTER the cross . When moses ( read John 3 ) lifted up the serpent in the wilderness ANYONE that looked ,lived .

 

[Barry Johnson]

No but John 10 is where Jesus clarified specifically who He died for, take heed.

He hadn't died until mathew 27 .

 

[Barry Johnson]

When a person follows Kevin Thompson and Leighton Flowers as their source there is no chance truth is coming to town anytime soon.

they didn't create an ism in the forth century ,like the one you follow today ' sheep like ' .

 

[Barry Johnson]

Call it what you want, it's the truth!

' CALVINISM. ' There's your red flag right there ,and you missed it .

 

[Barry Johnson]

So, @Barry Johnson is a Skandelonite. That explains it all. Thanks for the info.

Just ' bible believers ' who ,s authority is the bible and not dead theologians with beards .

 

[Brightfame52]

Not in context of the OT . There are clear references for Israel which are distinctive. Replacement theology has no clue about this .

Yes in that context

 

[Brightfame52]

There is no such thing .

Yes it is, you can deny it all you like, its not going to be different.

 

[MB]

Yes it is, you can deny it all you like, its not going to be different.

It's only true to Calvinist but to the rest of the world it's Islamic nonsense. They are also determinist.
MB

 

[Brightfame52]

John10
37If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.

38But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

Notice Jesus doesn't say here " i do the works of my Father, you are unable to believe. Because you were not chosen to be saved .

Jesus is actually reasoning with them as if they are responsible to believe.

You coming out of left field. Christ still said who He specifically died for Jn 10:11,15

 

[MB]

You coming out of left field. Christ still said who He specifically died for Jn 10:11,15

You are right Christ is telling us who He came to die for. And unless you are a Jew you aren't one of them. This was said before Salvation was sent to the Gentiles. The sheep in this case are Jews that He came to die for. The Bible wasn't written all at once, It was written in different time periods. Christ said this before He died which started the church period. These people at this time were still living under the Law. These verses do not apply to you.
MB

 

[Brightfame52]

You are right Christ is telling us who He came to die for. And unless you are a Jew you aren't one of them. This was said before Salvation was sent to the Gentiles. The sheep in this case are Jews that He came to die for. The Bible wasn't written all at once, It was written in different time periods. Christ said this before He died which started the church period. These people at this time were still living under the Law. These verses do not apply to you.
MB

Thats absolutely False. Some Sheep are Gentiles !

 

[Brightfame52]

Why would you go to another verse unrelated, addressing Jews, pre crucifixion ? This is terrible bible study .
John 12 .32

All scripture is related, they meet in Christ.

 

[Brightfame52]

You are right Christ is telling us who He came to die for. And unless you are a Jew you aren't one of them. This was said before Salvation was sent to the Gentiles. The sheep in this case are Jews that He came to die for. The Bible wasn't written all at once, It was written in different time periods. Christ said this before He died which started the church period. These people at this time were still living under the Law. These verses do not apply to you.
MB

You just saying anything. Christ died for His Sheep, His Church, jew and gentile.

 

[MB]

You just saying anything. Christ died for His Sheep, His Church, jew and gentile.

In the beginning of the ministry of Jesus Christ he came to the Jew first. Because it was the Jews He came to save but, the Jews rejected Him. This changed everthing. When He sent Peter to witness to Cornelius is when Salvation became available to the Gentiles because of the rejection of the Jews.The Gentiles were included to make the Jews jealous.
MB

 

[MB]

Thats absolutely False. Some Sheep are Gentiles !

Prove it?
MB

 

[Brightfame52]

In the beginning of the ministry of Jesus Christ he came to the Jew first. Because it was the Jews He came to save but, the Jews rejected Him. This changed everthing. When He sent Peter to witness to Cornelius is when Salvation became available to the Gentiles because of the rejection of the Jews.The Gentiles were included to make the Jews jealous.
MB

Christ died for His Sheep, His Church, jew and gentile.

 

[Brightfame52]

Prove it?
MB

God has to do that.

 

[JonShaff]

Hes speaking to Israel . It says Israel. Not gentiles . Gentiles are not included until Acts 11 .

9 Parthians, Medes, and Elamites, and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea, and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya around Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes,

 

[MB]

God has to do that.

In other words you claim what you say is true yet you can't prove it. Christ died for the world not just the elect the saved do not need Salvation. Christ didn't come to save the righteous He came to save the lost.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
MB