And they also wonder why you are so legalistic and why you have many man-made doctrines.
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Am I in sin?
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And they also wonder why you are so legalistic and why you have many man-made doctrines.
How do we know that you do not do these things?????
You become a Glutton, a drunk, a bulimic, a miser, a spendthrift,etc because you choose to be. Nobody is impelling or compelling anyone. You may delude yourself to believing that this is so, but it is not. The same wind which blows a ship on the rocks could blow it to safe harbor. In short, it is not the wind, it is the set of the sail. Any Person who denies that is a weakling who wishes to blame others for their life.
My father used to tell me this when I was a small boy, "Remember this surely: The Recording Angel will not accept your excuse that others made you what you are, and that you are blameless. I never forgot that."
Excuse me sir but if you can provide a solution I will take it. I do not feel comfortable shipping beer, however I am not a teetotalist. I am not sure if the feelings in me or from my legalistic Bob Jones University roots, or from the Bible. I notice that Ray Comfort and Way of the Master gang are not against alcohol like they are.
plain_n_simple
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You are not in sin by working where you work. If you do not like it find another job but do not stress over, and do not judge yourself.
Ive seen sober individuals beat & kill their spouses (both sexes). & I have seen tons of car accidents due to people using cell phones while driving. Big deal. And I agree, those who cant control themselves should never use any substance & not even drive a car if they are going to get into it & not pay strict attention to the road. But your never going to stop a stupid person from doing dumb things so whats your point?
Regarding Mike's Hard Lemonade - remember it says "hard".
As for alcohol, I used to drink it because it was tasty. Same reason I drink iced tea or a Coke. There are times I'd love to have a yummy margharita or a glass of wine but because of our decision not to drink for ministry's sake, I don't. I will still make a Seabreeze but without the vodka and it's still yummy.
Thats why I have and only drink the light version which will not get me drunk with 1 drink.
Thank you....best post of this thread.:thumbsup:
Whatever you say Goober.:smilewinkgrin:
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Take it to the Lord.
raying:No one here can read your heart and know the source of your "feelings". Nor those from Bob Jones or Ray Comfort.
Proverbs: 2: KJB
3 Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;
4 If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;
5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God.
6 For the Lord giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
Steadfast Fred
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Somebody had to ship it to that drunk who got behind the wheel of that car and killed that little child...
Might as well be evangelist, right?
Might as well be evangelist, right?
nevermind.........................
Oh, please...
Given your past positions on mental illness, you'd probably equate doctors with crack pushers.
What about the car salesman? He's just as guilty.
....and the DMV for issuing the drunk a driver's license.
Zaac
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I don't know that anyone has said that. But drinking certainly isn't seen to equal holiness.
I'm just picturing Irish Catholic priests in Boston sitting down to have a beer with the other Catholics.
Is it okay to also smoke a little marijuana from time to time? So many folks today don't have a problem with the use of it.
I am looking for a new job hard this weekend. Saw lots of opportunities at the Apple store and other places. Crystal sent me a ton of jobs and I see them all the time around here. I am gonna search hard for another job...
Steadfast Fred
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That would be a wise decision. Aiding in the shipment of a drug that is responsible for more than 1000 youths dying each year at the hands of a drunk driver really doesn't do anything to polish the Christian character.
The Archangel
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First off...I have to point out that hell has literally frozen over. I am in agreement with Webdog. I've already made the appointment to see the doctor. (JK).
Anyway...
For those of you who decry any use of alcohol at all, what do you do with this:
Of course, drunkenness is never condoned. However, drinking is invited, and even encouraged by God.
I do not condone drinking. However, I do not think the church can discipline its members for drinking, only drunkenness.
Some of the examples given here are, frankly, silly. And, as is often the case, the "indoctrinated" views are brought to the fore, not the scriptural ones.
The Archangel
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For those of you who decry any use of alcohol at all, what do you do with this:
“You shall tithe all the yield of your seed that comes from the field year by year. 23 And before the Lord your God, in the place that he will choose, to make his name dwell there, you shall eat the tithe of your grain, of your wine, and of your oil, and the firstborn of your herd and flock, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always. 24 And if the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, when the Lord your God blesses you, because the place is too far from you, which the Lord your God chooses, to set his name there, 25 then you shall turn it into money and bind up the money in your hand and go to the place that the Lord your God chooses 26 and spend the money for whatever you desire—oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves. And you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household. 27 And you shall not neglect the Levite who is within your towns, for he has no portion or inheritance with you. (Deuteronomy 14:22-27, ESV) Emphasis mine
The Israelites were commanded to spend money on whatever their appetites craved--even wine or strong drink. And, the consumption of food, wine, and strong drink was seen, as the text clearly says, as an act of worship (which is the meaning of the idiom "before the Lord").
Of course, drunkenness is never condoned. However, drinking is invited, and even encouraged by God.
I do not condone drinking. However, I do not think the church can discipline its members for drinking, only drunkenness.
Some of the examples given here are, frankly, silly. And, as is often the case, the "indoctrinated" views are brought to the fore, not the scriptural ones.
The Archangel
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