I really don't look at it that way. Ultimately the electorate decides. I want a candidate that touts his skills, especially with a media that won't.
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Amy Barrett Confirmation Hearings Thread
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I really don't look at it that way. Ultimately the electorate decides. I want a candidate that touts his skills, especially with a media that won't.
It is not really nuanced at all. Rather than advocating one's own political position todays politician is expected to position for its advancement regardless of means.
Politics is making others understand your political position and arguing why it is the best position. Today parties want votes regardless of the reason for the vote. It is about grabbing power - not political positions.
This again is very vague. Lot of platitudes and cliches. I don't see the actual meat of the argument.
Odd. I cannot think of a better way of stating the difference. Perhaps you are taking cliches for things that are not really cliches.
Perhaps. But I don't see an actual argument.
Yea, like Democrat’s’ agenda to pack the court, statehood for D.C. and Puerto Rico in order to perpetually dominate the Senate, eliminate the electoral college, eliminate ICE, eliminate the filibuster, have open borders, to name just a few.
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Exactly.
Our struggle is not against flesh and blood but against the rulers, the authorities, the powers of this dark world and the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
Political parties are not worthy of our faith.
How exactly are we to 'struggle' with an invisible enemy that abides in the heavenly realms?
We are to put on the armor of God and stand.
RighteousnessTemperance&
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Nor do I. While the Dems have lied and deceived regarding a Supreme Court replacement, the Reps have articulated the truth. The Dems set the stage and one must act.
Of course there is nothing barring Barret professionally, or personally. But the Dems have used every trick in the book to suggest or even claim that there is. They are first order hypocrites.
Also, the Reps must deal with the idiocy espoused by Dem operatives, such as that Beavis sidekick professor Kennedy so bluntly called out. No one wants to butt heads with the Dems, but neither can you just let fools have the floor unopposed.
Do you believe that spiritual forces, God and satan, were involved in the creation of Christian America? If so, how?
Do you believe spiritual forces were involved in the Holocaust and efforts to exterminate the Jews? If so, how?
Do you believe spiritual forces were involved in the defeat of Germany and the founding of the Jewish state? If so, how?
Quantrill
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Regarding the confirmation hearing. It is of my opinion that the purpose of the hearing is to determine if whether or not ACB is qualified to set on the Supreme Court. It is obvious that Democrats are not questioning her qualifications, but rather how she "Might" rule on a specific case when she sets on the bench.
I believe spiritual forces are always involved when we speak of things like secular ideologies, worldviews, and politics.
God sets up and removes governments (to include America, England, and Germany) for His purposes.
Men are blinded by the secular narratives in which they live. That is how you end up with men of character and faith (like Whitefield and Washington) advocating slavery. That is how evils like abortion and the DNC exists even in Christian populations. And that is how the Holocaust occured within a nation comprised largely of Christians.
When you stand is it for Christ or against people (these are not the same although they may appear so to the World)?
When it comes to politics is your identity Christian or Republican (where are your loyalties)?
I ask because sometimes it seems you take offense at any criticism of the Republican party as if the GOP the Church. It may be you simply separate faith and politics (as many do). Or perhaps there are other reasons. Tge reason I reach this conclusion is evidenced on this thread (your responses, tge amount of responses, and my initial comment).
As a reminder to the forum - I agreed with Cruz's comments in his first questioning but not tge format (I thought it was wrong to use the hearing as a stage to attack the DNC rather than address the candidate bring confirmed).
I agree, spiritual forces are always involved in secular ideologies, worldviews, and politics. That makes them a spiritual force. You speak as though you ignore doing anything about such secular forces as we do not wrestle against flesh and blood. That we do not wrestle against flesh and blood does not mean we ignore the flesh and blood. We simply recognize the spirit behind it.
Spiritual warfare is being waged on Earth. It is fleshed out in people. When ones ideology reflects the doctrines of demons and satan, they move and act on it. They move their body, their flesh, to act upon it. What do you do? Do you act against it? How? Just pray? Pray but don't do anything? Pray that God's man is placed in office but don't lift a finger to get him there? Because doing so would mean you were not spiritual. Foolish.
Why do you call slavery a secular narrative when God is the One who instituted slavery?
You mean 'Christians' did nothing in Germany which allowed the Holocaust? Proves my point. Perhaps they were too busy fighting the spiritual war and couldn't waste time on politics and the fleshly things. What do you think they should have done that would have been spiritual but not fleshly?
I take offense at those who advocate doing nothing on the basis of spirituality. When that is exactly what satan wants Christians to do. Go don a robe and escape from the world and be spiritual as satan goes through the world like a hog through a corn field. But then when the nation is in satans grip, the same people will bemoan, 'how could this have happened'.
Quantrill
I call slavery a secular narrative because I am not referring to the Hebrew idea of "slave" but to slavery as practiced in England and the Americas.
Oh. And just what was the 'Hebrew idea of slavery'? And where did it come from?
Quantrill
It came from the need to pay off debt and it was not implemented by God but it was regulated under the Law. For the Hebrews this was period of servitude that could last up to a period of 6 years (or until the Jubilee).
The custom was common ANE practice within cultures or societies (often for periods up to 3 years).
Were you under the impression God implemented the practice of men owning other men as property?
Reformed1689
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Correct, they don't care that she is qualified.
What a politically correct view of slavery.
The slavery you describe was between the Jews only. And, it was implemented by God. Who do you think gave the Law?
But, that was not the only slavery instituted by God. (Lev. 25:45-46) "Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. And ye shall take them as an inheritance, for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigor."
What impression are you under now?
Quantrill
The same impression.
Many errors have been made by well meaning Christians, sometimes resulting in otherwise moral men justifying racism and slavery as God instituted because they cannot grasp the relation of God's dealing with Israel as compared to the world or the Church.
But no, God did not institute racism, hatred, or slavery. That is not to say God did not ordain slavery in history (God ordained, for example, that Jacob be sold into slavery).
But no - slavery, racism, hatred, murder, adultery....God has used these things but He does not institute them.
It is ignorant to believe slavery did not exist prior to Israel as we know better (and you should know better). The same principle is explained in Scripture regarding divorce.
It is wrong to justify sin, or sinful attitudes. But it is natural and I suspect something over which we will wrestle throughout this life.
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