That's the point. And, I posted 100% of the reviews. And they all had something good to say about him, sharing how his writings have impacted their lives. Haven't checked the other one out yet but intend to.
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Arthur W. Pink, HyperCalvinist
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That's the point. And, I posted 100% of the reviews. And they all had something good to say about him, sharing how his writings have impacted their lives. Haven't checked the other one out yet but intend to.
Just checked this one out. I think I'll wait for you to showcase more of your PDS with this proposed thread before posting on it..
DaveXR650
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With all the back and forth I had to start reading some Pink. So far only two sermons. I like him. He was probably a flawed human like everyone else. I would guess that he had a sharp intellect, was an introvert, sensitive and far better at writing than dealing with people. We need people like that too.
I strongly recommend his 'Gleanings In Genesis' for an eye-opening intro into types and allegories.
COLLECTION OF A.W. PINK'S WRITINGS
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What's the matter. Was the dialogue getting too amiable and conciliatory for you? Time to stir the pot with another divisive comment w/o offering anything helpful.
Gleanings in Genesis was written when he was young, and in later life he totally disagreed with himself.
The redneck brought my grandfather into this thread, when I was not planning to. So it is perfectly natural that I talk some more about Grandpa Rice. He was a very giving person, faithful in his church and giving to his church: tithing, extra giving, sometimes 1000s of dollars to special projects. He wrote a book on tithing and giving, a rare thing.
I was the recipient of Rice's giving in college and then as a rookie missionary, $1000 each time. I knew of others who could say the same, non-relatives. He was on the board of a Latin America mission board, and gave there, too. All of the profits from his books (millions printed) went into the ministry--ALL--and he lived strictly on love offerings from God's people, living in a modest 3 bedroom home. He liked to say, "Millions of dollars have passed through these hands, but praise the Lord, none of it stuck!"
Pink, on the other hand, lived in his last years on the inheritance from his parents, his father in particular. That is not bad, of course. But where did he give and who did he give to in those last years? His two biographers do not tell. Our church has a "Deacon's Fund" offering once a month to help the needy. But Pink didn't go to church the last years. Where did he give and to who in the last years of his life? Did he give to the needy? To missionaries? Just asking.
Pink wrote a short essay on tithing, it is true. But where did he tithe and give in the last 14 years of his life, when he didn't go to church? (Here is Pink's essay: https://www.ccel.org/ccel/p/pink/tithing/cache/tithing.pdf) This essay is actually not bad. However, in this short essay on tithing, Pink does mention the missionary in one paragraph, only to berate us: "No wonder the missionary world is calling out today that they are crippled for lack of funds! They need to be taught scriptural finance." Thanks a lot, Pink. Every missionary I've ever known (many, many) has been a faithful tither and giver. (This essay was probably written when Pink was comparatively young, since he talks about dispensations in it.) And I've been accused on this thread as being judgmental. Not as judgmental as Pink, though!
Tithing and giving are basic to the Christian life, folks: "Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again" (Luke 6:38).
I was the recipient of Rice's giving in college and then as a rookie missionary, $1000 each time. I knew of others who could say the same, non-relatives. He was on the board of a Latin America mission board, and gave there, too. All of the profits from his books (millions printed) went into the ministry--ALL--and he lived strictly on love offerings from God's people, living in a modest 3 bedroom home. He liked to say, "Millions of dollars have passed through these hands, but praise the Lord, none of it stuck!"
Pink, on the other hand, lived in his last years on the inheritance from his parents, his father in particular. That is not bad, of course. But where did he give and who did he give to in those last years? His two biographers do not tell. Our church has a "Deacon's Fund" offering once a month to help the needy. But Pink didn't go to church the last years. Where did he give and to who in the last years of his life? Did he give to the needy? To missionaries? Just asking.
Pink wrote a short essay on tithing, it is true. But where did he tithe and give in the last 14 years of his life, when he didn't go to church? (Here is Pink's essay: https://www.ccel.org/ccel/p/pink/tithing/cache/tithing.pdf) This essay is actually not bad. However, in this short essay on tithing, Pink does mention the missionary in one paragraph, only to berate us: "No wonder the missionary world is calling out today that they are crippled for lack of funds! They need to be taught scriptural finance." Thanks a lot, Pink. Every missionary I've ever known (many, many) has been a faithful tither and giver. (This essay was probably written when Pink was comparatively young, since he talks about dispensations in it.) And I've been accused on this thread as being judgmental. Not as judgmental as Pink, though!
Tithing and giving are basic to the Christian life, folks: "Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again" (Luke 6:38).
Lol, while searching thread titles with 'Pink' I stumbled upon this post where YOU made no bones about bringing your grandpa into another of your anti-Pink rants. It seemed to me that this could actually be at the root of this unhealthy fixation /animosity you have towards A.W. Pink. It seems though the reason is as simple as, you're unabashedly judging the servant of another.
Anyway, do your worst JoJ, you'll never be able to undo the good that God used this man to do for his readers.
Reviews of 'Gleanings In Genesis'.
"I always like the way Arthur Pink writes. I read this book more than 50 years ago and have really enjoyed reading it again. Also enjoying other of his writings. I followed all of Genesis with him and learned a lot I had missed 50 years ago. I highly recommend it when studying along with him."
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Pink Reveals Hidden Gems
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on September 10, 2021Verified Purchase
This is a book I borrowed from our missions training library at Campus Crusade headquarters back in 1976 because I was studying a course of Old Testament survey and our professor recommended it. At the time I was enthralled by the gems of meaning that Pink was bringing to light from Genesis. With all the studies and practical training we had to do, I didn't have time to finish the book. Now, 45 years later, I am studying Genesis once again and wondered if I could get hold of Pink's book on Kindle. Yes! I have not been disappointed. Pink reveals more truths, types and insights in Genesis than I could see on my own and I enjoyed every page. This book is useful for people who want to dig deeper into Genesis and discover layers of meaning in it they might not discover unaided.
18 | Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold Wondrous things out of thy law. Ps 119 |
27 | And beginning from Moses and from all the prophets, he interpreted to them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. |
32 | And they said one to another, Was not our heart burning within us, while he spake to us in the way, while he opened to us the scriptures? Lu 24 |
10 | ,,,,the joy of the LORD is your strength. Neh 8 |
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Good…. I’m impressed. Didn’t think rednecks could read…. LMAO
Had an awesome church service this morning. I have come to feel sorry for Pink. By not attending church for his last 14 years, he missed so much.
We had a blessed Sunday School, and I sat around a table with other men my age discussing the Word of God. What could be more blessed? We had a wonderful song service. (Pink criticized the song service in churches. Didn't like it.) Our pastor preached a great message on giving. We were able to fellowship with old friends after the service. On Friday we'll have an ordination council for a missionary to Cameroon. I'll sit on the council, and then on Sunday lay hands on him to ordain him. This is a tremendous privilege.
We had a blessed Sunday School, and I sat around a table with other men my age discussing the Word of God. What could be more blessed? We had a wonderful song service. (Pink criticized the song service in churches. Didn't like it.) Our pastor preached a great message on giving. We were able to fellowship with old friends after the service. On Friday we'll have an ordination council for a missionary to Cameroon. I'll sit on the council, and then on Sunday lay hands on him to ordain him. This is a tremendous privilege.
Thanks for the opportunity to bring John R. Rice into a thread again!
I have not been trying to undo the good God did through Pink. I've been trying to show his error in rejecting church. In fact, whenever I can do it (not for a while), I'll do a thread on the bio by Murray, which relates the blessed way Pink was used as a young preacher. I was particularly blessed by a story of how as a young preacher Pink and another preacher prayed all night for a man to be saved, but Pink never heard if he was. Many years later, he heard about the man again, and was told that the man did get saved and became a missionary. Pink wept.
You're welcome! I see you jumped with both feet on the opportunity to reiterate that your grandpa John R. Rice was a holier man than A.W. Pink and that your grandpa John R. Rice sold more books than A.W. Pink. Perhaps you can move on now and get over this fixation that you've had with Pink, and cease beating on a dead man who cannot defend himself. This is NOT a 'good look' for YOUR 'Christianity'. Not healthy.
It's a shame you couldn't have been magnanimous enough to show him the same understanding the reviewers of the book did instead of accusing him of being a "terrible, disobedient Christian":
"this biography, while showing that Pink had an eccentric and often hard personality, the author tries to understand his actions and reactions in the theologically desperate and dark times in which he lived,"
""As someone who is himself an introvert I was helped...."
"The book shows him as he was even if at time it wasn't flattering."
"Pink could be described as an eccentric and loner. He seemed to be a very sensitive soul who struggled with rejection and spent his final days in Stornoway, Scotland."
"...he is much more well known and appreciated 53 years after his death than he ever was when he was alive."
"...this book gave me so much about his life, struggles, weaknesses of the man and an unswerving loyalty to Christ"
DaveXR650
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I haven't read that one yet but I just read his two sections on John chapter 3 in addition to the other things I mentioned. I really like him so far. I honestly don't know what all the controversy is about Pink. Is there anyone that has read him that really claims he was a hyper-Calvinist, or was that just a view of the OP, who is long gone? At this point in my life, when I hear of flaws in some notable Christian's life part of me at least feels a great sense of relief rather than disappointment.
On this thread @John of Japan's animosity towards him has been the source of the controversy. He doesn't like him. He's stated that clearly in the past on other threads (probably on this thread also). He needs to grow up and accept the fact that Pink's fans (which are many) love him.
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Trust me, he's no 'Hyper-Calvinist'. For instance, I know for a fact he's very popular with the Missionary Baptists in this area and WVA. Read the reviews on Amazon, he's very popular among a plethora of folks.
I strongly advise you to drop Flowers like a hot potato (who was an active participating member on this board for years) and read more Pink.
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agreed… Flowers is a miscreant
Do not see JOJ as being file of vile as Pink would be against those holding to his theology, but more like he is against the extreme bitterness and gall Pink showed to those who he once hung around and had same theology with, and especially knocked pink for sinning by forsaking the weekly gathering of the brethren
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