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Arthur W. Pink, HyperCalvinist

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John of Japan

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I don't think that Dispensationalism had much hold on the churches on the Isle of Lewis. My understanding is that they were Reformed Presbyterian churches that had fallen into a sort of dead orthodoxy. The revival of the early '50s certainly awakened them, though my understanding is that they have fallen back in more recent times into their former ways.
"There is reason to think that Pink himself made a serious mistake...when he declined to be associated with either of the two reformed congregations in Stornoway--the Free Presbyterian and the Free Church--on the grounds that they were 'lifeless'" (Iaian Murrah, The Life of Arthur W. Pink, p. 206). The footnote on that page says, "Kenneth A. MacRae was minister of one of these churches and the reader of his now-published Diary will find good reason toe disagree with this judgment." Murray was the editor of the Diary.

"It is an extraordinary fact that, although living a short distance from each other for twelve years, Pink never met Kenneth A. MacRae, the minister of the Free Church of Scotland" (Murray, p. 163). Pink could have attended MacRae's church there, but chose to be a spiritual hermit, never going to church. I can't respect that.

MacRae was a highly respected and greatly used man of God. Pink did him a great disservice by ignoring his ministry Here's a link about MacRae: Rev Kenneth Macrae | Lochgilphead Free Church of Scotland | Scotland. There are other Internet sources, and you can even listen to MacRae's sermons on the Internet.
 

kyredneck

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You're welcome to think that if you wish, but I hold no animosity to other opponents of Dispensationalism.

Well, I do think that and would like to understand your fixation on him when there are so many others that are ALIVE you could legitimately berate.
 
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John of Japan

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Well, I do think that and would like to understand your fixation on him when there are so many others that are ALIVE you could legitimately berate.
It's not really berating someone if he's dead! :Biggrin And you seem to have forgotten that my main objection to him is not his theology, but his poor Christian living. How about you? Do you think it's perfectly all right for a theologian to go 14 years or so without attending church, even if there is one nearby with similar beliefs?
 

John of Japan

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Folks, if you write books, you automatically set yourself up for criticism. That's okay. I've had good reviews and bad reviews of my books. I doubt if Pink cares about my critique of him, assuming he's in Heaven now. :Coffee
 

kyredneck

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my main objection to him is not his theology, but his poor Christian living.

"Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand" (Rom. 14:4). - A. W. Pink

Incredible. He became a "spiritual hermit" (and never stopped his writing). Can you cite scripture that shows this to be the awful sin you're making it out to be?
 
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kyredneck

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Arthur Pink's The Sovereignty of God is one of two books that I have read in my life that I eagerly turned to page after the page while reading it, looking forward to what would be on the next page.

Arthur Pink was a master at drawing out the types in scripture.

 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Considering that teaching Dispensationalism is your livelihood, it kinda explains your animosity towards him.
Considering that teaching Dispensationalism is your livelihood, it kinda explains your animosity towards him.
Please do not use weak words like ‘kinda’ when addressing attack reasoning…be definitive and remove ‘kinda’ or use the word ‘does or must’
 

John of Japan

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Please tell me what untrue thing I said about Pink. For it to be slander, it must be a lie. All I've done is refer to facts from the two biographies of him!
John R. Rice's best seller was his little book on Heaven, which has sold over 700,000. His book Prayer: Asking and Receiving has sold several hundred thousand, which is much more than Pink's best seller. That was evidently is The Sovereignty of God, which sold 178,000 as of 2001. (Banneroftruth.org). Rice wrote over 200 books and pamphlets, which have been translated into many different languages. His famous tract, "What Must I Do to Be Saved?" has had over 40,000,000 copies printed in over 40 languages.

I hadn't planned to do this kind of comparison, but you brought it up. :Biggrin
 

DaveXR650

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Rice wrote over 200 books and pamphlets, which have been translated into many different languages. His famous tract, "What Must I Do to Be Saved?" has had over 40,000,000 copies printed in over 40 languages.
And somehow he still found time to attend church services!
 

kyredneck

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IMO, Arthur Pink was a terrible, disobedient Christian, and no one should learn theology from him. Period.
If your 'opinion' of Pink is not God's opinion, then it's slanderous. Again, cite scripture showing his reclusiveness to be the awful sin you're making it out to be.

In all these biographies on him is he ever accused of REAL sins like fornication, lying. stealing, drunkenness, railing, etc.?
 

John of Japan

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If your 'opinion' of Pink is not God's opinion, then it's slanderous. Again, cite scripture showing his reclusiveness to be the awful sin you're making it out to be.
Interesting. You totally redefine "slander" to meet the needs of your argument for Pink purity. Your definition will not be found in any dictionary.

As for Pink's sin that I have exposed, it was not in his reclusiveness. It is in his disobedience, his failure to obey the Scripture: "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching" (Heb. 10:25).

In all these biographies on him is he ever accused of REAL sins like fornication, lying. stealing, drunkenness, railing, etc.?
Aha. So in your view the only "REAL sins" are the really wicked ones, not disobedience. One can reject church (the body of Christ), call everyone apostate, refuse to fellowship with other Christians, and you are okay with that. Is that your position?
 

John of Japan

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More on Rice vs. Pink:

Rice's newspaper, The Sword of the Lord, reached a circulation of 300,000 back in the day (less now), and is still in existence. It was broad based evangelical, with articles and sermons by many, including Spurgeon.

Pink's little magazine (that's what he called it), Studies in the Scriptures, died shortly after he did because it was only articles by him. It never exceeded a couple thousand subscribers at its best.

John R. Rice had a worldwide ministry of hundreds of thousands souls saved and lives changed. Pink's main accomplishment was making people Calvinists. (To be fair, Pink did have a successful evangelistic ministry early in his career before he became a recluse. But you can't be a recluse and win folks to Christ.)

I think I've made my point. My objection to Pink's later years has nothing to do with anything the redneck accuses me of. It's a Biblical objection.
 
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More on Rice vs. Pink:

Rice's newspaper, The Sword of the Lord, reached a circulation of 300,000 back in the day (less now), and is still in existence. It was broad based evangelical, with articles and sermons by many, including Spurgeon.

Pink's little magazine (that's what he called it), Studies in the Scriptures, died shortly after he did because it was only articles by him. It never exceeded a couple thousand subscribers at its best.

John R. Rice had a worldwide ministry of hundreds of thousands souls saved and lives changed. Pink's main accomplishment was making people Calvinists. (To be fair, Pink did have a successful evangelistic ministry early in his career before he became a recluse. But you can't be a recluse and win folks to Christ.)

I think I've made my point. My objection to Pink's later years has nothing to do with anything the redneck accuses me of. It's a Biblical objection.
Think we have examples of how to treat fellow brethren in example of Dr Sproul and Dr Macarthur, who while disagree on many truths of the Faith, still managed to really love each other, and not emulate example of Pink in regards to hw he went on the war path against all who he saw as teaching a "less than" Christianity
 

John of Japan

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Think we have examples of how to treat fellow brethren in example of Dr Sproul and Dr Macarthur, who while disagree on many truths of the Faith, still managed to really love each other, and not emulate example of Pink in regards to hw he went on the war path against all who he saw as teaching a "less than" Christianity
Good thinking.
 

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Excerpts from Amazon book biographies about Pink:

Arthur W. Pink, Born to Write: A BIography


"The first biography of A.W. Pink ever written. A peculiar man, but a faithful preacher, this biography, while showing that Pink had an eccentric and often hard personality, the author tries to understand his actions and reactions in the theologically desperate and dark times in which he lived, and how Pink sought earnestly to awaken the church to neglected truths. The result is not only a presentation of facts and events but an interpretive biography that reveals the man and his heart-beat for the eternal God and His glory."

@John of Japan: "Arthur Pink was a terrible, disobedient Christian"

"As someone who is himself an introvert I was helped by the honest truth telling of this godly man A.W. Pink by the author. In a constant search for wisdom in dealing with an introverted mind I see the same struggles and blind spots in myself as in Pink. I do however fall way short of his heights..."

John of Japan: "Arthur Pink was a terrible, disobedient Christian"

"As a big fan of Pink, I was very glad to learn something about the man. I now find reading him I have added insight. The book shows him as he was even if at time it wasn't flattering. Really recommend for those who love Pink's work.

John of Japan: "Arthur Pink was a terrible, disobedient Christian"

"This a fascinating read by Richard Belcher. Belcher writes in a personal and warm manner that brings the material to life. This is one of the most interesting biographies I have ever read. Arthur W. Pink is one of my favorite authors and Belcher's bio offers insight to the man behind the books. A.W. Pink is one of the most unique Christian authors of the 20th century. Pink could be described as an eccentric and loner. He seemed to be a very sensitive soul who struggled with rejection and spent his final days in Stornoway, Scotland. In Pink's last days he was in isolation from all formal worship and churches, and spent his remaining days writing. He died in 1952 and was buried in an unmarked grave in Stornoway. Pink's notoriety was increased after his death, with the publication of many of his works. I found this book to be encouraging, because it shows that God can use a variety of different type of people to be used for His glory. Though Pink clearly had his flaws, God even used them for his ultimate purposes. In our day and age when the church seems to be concerned with using only extroverts, and seems to have an obsession with "community", this book shows that God can use all personality types to His majestic glory. As a side note Belcher gives some interesting information about Pink's wife Vera, who truly was a helpmate, that enabled Pink to be the writer he was. Highly recommended."

John of Japan: "Arthur Pink was a terrible, disobedient Christian"

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Great biography of a man who remained faithful to the holy scriptures till his dying breathe. Arthur Pink is one of my favorite authors and this biography is one of the two that have ever been written about him. Pink championed the doctrines of grace at a very difficult point in history and wrote volumes of well grounded biblical works especially his most recognized book, "The Sovereignty of God". Ultimately, even without the recognition of men, God knows those who have rendered faithful service to Him and their works will be tested by fire at the end of time. Greatly recommended for anyone interested in knowing a little bit more about the man who wrote much about Christ and little about himself. Soli Deo Gloria."

John of Japan: "Arthur Pink was a terrible, disobedient Christian"

"There are many reasons that could be given for reading the biography of any Christian that has had great usefulness in the Kingdom of God. There is much that can be learned that has come from the pen of A.W.Pink, but there is so much that can be learned from his life as well. There have only been two biographies on Pink's life thus far. What makes this one so special is that it is very instructional on God's providential dealings with one of His servants. Richard Belcher read just about everything that came from Pink's voluminous pen and did extensive research to get as much information as he could for this interpretive biography. It cannot be denied that there was a significant revival of the doctrine known as Calvinism in the second half of the twentieth century. Richard Belcher believes that Pink is as responsible as much as any man for the resurgence of belief in that doctrine. Mr. Belcher is far from standing alone in that opinion. One thing(among many),that is so fascinating about the life and influence of Mr.Pink is that he is much more well known and appreciated 53 years after his death than he ever was when he was alive. Belcher eloquently writes in the introduction "There was no hint when he passed from this world that he would be remembered except by a few faithful readers of a small paper he had published for thirty some years. ...Surprisingly,however,the role he played in life was sharply reversed following his death in 1952." There are many books in print today that were never in print during Pink's lifetime. They were taken,by various publishers,from the monthly magazine 'Studies in the Scriptures'which was edited (and mostly written by Pink himself)for thirty years. While Iain Murray's biography 'The Life of A.W.Pink is important and valuable, Belcher's is superior because the reader gets the sense that he really attempted to understand the man he was writing about. This is especially significant because there is much about the life of Arthur Walkington Pink which is contoversial and hard to comprehend. It is hoped that additional biographies will eventually follow about this significant man of God whose influence has been and continues to be enourmous, to the praise and glory of God."

John of Japan: "Arthur Pink was a terrible, disobedient Christian"
 

kyredneck

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"I loved the writings of Arthur Pink and I read the man’s life in short. But this book gave me so much about his life, struggles, weaknesses of the man and an unswerving loyalty to Christ. My love for the man has increased and my respect for him has multiplied. I have named my son after Mr.Pink’s name."

John of Japan: "Arthur Pink was a terrible, disobedient Christian"

"I have read many of Pink's works, and have benefited greatly from them. Having no theological training and being buffeted about from church to church trying to get to the root of what the Bible teaches, most especially regarding soteriology, I found a very great friend in A.W.Pink. Like the author of this biography (a no mean feat to accomplish!) I too am not in perfect harmony with Pink's writings, most notably in the area of prophecy and eschatology; therefore the reader should take note that I don't blindly take on board every word that came from the pen of Pink. I agree with the author that Pink's work would have benefited greatly if he had a greater working knowledge of the Greek and Hebrew-he relied heavily on Bagsters interlinear.
Pink's teaching on Election, Pre-destination, and the Sovereignty of God, are topics that I have wrestled with for months and years, and try as I may, I cannot disagree with him, and came to the conclusion that his writings on these great themes are thoroughly Biblical. His work, however is very strong meat, and many, I fear in this wicked, fast moving and theologically inept world we now live in, will not spend their time digging deep in order to lay a rock solid foundation on which to build their faith in the "Blessed Hope". I have no doubt whatsoever, that if Pink compromised his beliefs and went with the Arminian and the "sensational" (as he calls it) flow, that he would have been a very 'successful' preacher and writer in his own life time. I had not realised that this man of God was such a gifted speaker.
This biography revealed many insights hitherto unknown to me regarding Pink's life and ministry work in the UK, USA and Australia.
From my previous knowledge and reading of Pink's writings, I believe this work is a well balanced account of Pink's life from the meagre gleanings available, (he seldom said much about himself) especially when we consider Pink's desire was to exalt ONLY his Saviour, and not himself? Unlike the vast majority of Christendom, with their so-called 'testimonies' and 'experiences' a dozen! We need NO testimony of man, only of Christ; "The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy" Revelation 19.10. It is ONLY the Word of God that will convict a soul to repentance and belief-"For the word of God is quick and powerful and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." Hebrews 4.12.
It is enough that God calls His people out of the world, we are but dust. Surrounded by the most handsome hand carved granite monoliths and obelisks in memory of local ministers and others; there is but nothing other than grass and weeds above where Pink now lies. His Redeemer KNOWS where he is!"

John of Japan: "Arthur Pink was a terrible, disobedient Christian"

"The works of Arthur W Pink have been fundamental to my theological studies for more than thirty years. The two books which made me so grateful to this godly man were "The Divine Covenants" and "The Sovereignty of God". I found them in the Alethia Christian Bookshop in Whitchurch, Shropshire. Arthur Pink fed my growing desire to understand God's Word and fanned the love in my heart to know more of the Lord Jesus Christ, my Saviour and constant Companion. Feeding on the Word of God by bible reading, and maintaining the elasticity of mind and heart through autodidactic study of theology is a great joy now in retirement. There are, of course, many more books to explore besides Pink's works, but they have provided more for me in my personal pilgrimage than I had ever imagined. Take Martyn Lloyd Jones advice and read Pink for your own spiritual development and get to grips with Barth and Bultmann and Dietrich Bonhoeffer as well. Beware of godless chatter which is rooted in unbelief. Beware above all of "religion". The Son of God did not found a new religion, he brought new Life to mankind and his fallen world. Hence the quest for "religionless Christianity"."

John of Japan: "Arthur Pink was a terrible, disobedient Christian"

A few excerpts from BB threads about Pink:

"Arthur Pink's The Sovereignty of God is one of two books that I have read in my life that I eagerly turned to page after the page while reading it, looking forward to what would be on the next page."

"moving me from the Church of Christ and other false gospels(reading The Sovereignty of God in the late 1990s was a big part of that)"

"His books stand or fall on their own merits. IMHO, they stand."

"All through this period of isolation, he never stopped writing. Sound writings. Some here are judging him harshly, all the while you're going to spend eternity in glory with him. He was a devoted man of God, period."

"His 'Sovereignty of God' was the first I read, it came to me like it was sent by God. 'Gleanings in Genesis' is a superb intro to types. 'Elijah' came to me at just the right time. His books on 'David', 'John', 'Hebrews' and several others I reference often."

"I read Pink's book 15 or 20 years ago, and remember being very blessed by it.....I am a big Pink fan, but I think this may perhaps be his best book."

"I read it also, probably 35 yrs ago, loved it, love Pink."

"Pink to me is a Type and Shadow man as I am... Love those comparisons..."

"The one I'm reading at the time, whatever Pink it is, is his best book"

"Walkington is my hero. I think The Sovereignty Of God is his best. I am presently rereading The Attributes Of God by him. And I'm also rereading JI Packer's book God's Words. Those two are classics."

"Do you know why I like Pink, Martin?... I like his types and shadows... His illustration and comparisons... He keeps you interested in what he says and how he says and applies it according to scripture... He will write something and I will read and say... I never look at it that way before... He brings new light to the OT and the NT..."

"......anyway, he continued writing for his readers, perhaps his calling was to write, not to pastor."

"A.W. Pink is a hero of mine. He was Baptist. Yet he had strong PB ties as well. I have a number of his books. His written ministry was exceptional. I have gleaned so much from his very biblical insights."

John of Japan: "Arthur Pink was a terrible, disobedient Christian"
 
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