This does not compare with having a private email server installed in YOUR HOUSE and used by the SECRETARY of STATE
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Attorney General Sessions
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Yeah, and Colin or anyone else didn't pour bleach all over the emails, either. All of the Bush era ones were recovered but not Hillary's. . . yet.
Ever think that maybe Trump is playing again? This whole thing with Sessions is just off-kilter - think it could be real collusion between the two to appear to distance themselves from each other, doesn't add up that Jeff won't quit and that Trump whined about him to the NYT. People that a few months ago were screaming for Jeff's head and now those same people are defending him against big bad Trump.
Ever think that maybe Trump is playing again? This whole thing with Sessions is just off-kilter - think it could be real collusion between the two to appear to distance themselves from each other, doesn't add up that Jeff won't quit and that Trump whined about him to the NYT. People that a few months ago were screaming for Jeff's head and now those same people are defending him against big bad Trump.
And you still continue to dodge the question. "What crime?"
Think really, really hard. What crime was Hillary Clinton accused of?
Obviously you know nothing about IP networking. I do. The physical location of the server doesn't matter. What matters is who controls the server and who has access to the traffic. This would include security implications like hacking.
Why did Jeff take the Job then recuse himself?
I like Jeff but seriously the Democrats are wolves and Jeff shouldn't have given them an inch. Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast. ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them. under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
She sent classified information using an unsecure server.
There is no evidence the Bush administration sent classified information on an unsecure server.
So, care to actually answer the question this time? "What crime?"
Don't be so pushy TC, you've gotta allow him time to feed the DNC the question and receive an answer! Sheesh!!!!
Yeah, I know nothing about IP networking, being an electrical engineer and all. Having set up umpteen home networks, built several computers, designed and maintain my own website. Just got back from my Mom's house today where I swapped out her old cable/modem/router, configured a new one, installed a couple of wireless cameras with static IP addresses, port forwarded these addresses so I can view the cameras remotely via a DDNS address at my house. Yeah, I know nothing.
The physical location does matter. It is no different than laying classified paper documents in a non secured public place.
One that's a fact. The Bush administration refused to comply with a Congressional subpoena for those missing emails. Of course, an investigation might uncover some additional crimes.
Yes it is. If the server is administered and secured you can't get information off it as you would a piece of paper.
What's the difference between being in Hillary Clinton's basement and a GOP national party location?
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They complied. Were interviewed at the White House. No criminal activity found.
Additional to what? You still have not told us "What crime?"
One is illegal the other is not.
You obviously know absolutely nothing about transmission of classified information via email.
The ONLY system that may be used to transmit such information is SIPRNet for information classified up to Secret, and JWICS for the transmission of Top Secret information.
Hillary Clinton transmitted classified information on her private, unsecured, server. The information she forwarded were clearly marked with (C) in the subject line. Anyone with a security clearance knows what that (C) means.
The GOP did not. The use of the GOP server was election related information, and some personal stuff. No evidence at all to support your specious claims. Just more fake news.
It does matter. That is why there are rules about physical location.
I presume the location of the RNC server was not a secret. I presume emails sent/received on it did not rise to the security level of correspondence by the Secretary of State. I also highly doubt the number given of 22 million emails.
Hillary's server was in her house. She was secretary of state. This is not on government property. Having the server in your house gives you physical access to it. You could swap out the memory boards, taking the memory containing the sensitive emails out and substituting memory loaded with faux emails of little consequence. Or you could physically remove the server from the premises and deny it was ever installed there. Lots of opportunity for subterfuge when you physically control the server.
Absolutely untrue. It is NOT legal to have email servers potentially carrying classified information which are not managed by the federal government.
You're talking about the law which I'm familiar with. I'm talking about activity during the Bush administration which did not follow the law.
Missing White House Emails
In 2007, when Congress asked the Bush administration for emails surrounding the firing of eights U.S. attorneys, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales revealed that many of the emails requested could not be produced because they were sent on a non-government email server. The officials had used the private domain gwb43.com, a server run by the Republican National Committee. Two years later, it was revealed that potentially 22 million emails were deleted, which was considered by some to be a violation of the Presidential Records Act.
Missing White House Emails
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George W. Bush White House 'Lost' 22 Million E-mails?
Clinton’s email habits look positively transparent when compared with the subpoena-dodging, email-hiding, private-server-using George W. Bush administration. Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House “lost” 22 million emails. This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in America’s recent history, when the Bush administration was ginning up support for what turned out to be a disastrous war in Iraq with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and, later, when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons.
The comparison is apt in some ways, not so much in others. One similarity is the use of private e-mail servers in lieu of government ones. During the course of a Congressional investigation it was found that many Bush White House staffers (including then-Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove) had conducted official business via private e-mail accounts on a server owned and maintained by the Republican National Committee. Then it was revealed that as many as 22 million e-mails sent and received via these private accounts “were not preserved” in accordance with the Presidential Records Act of 1978, which requires that all official communications be archived and accounted for:
The Bush Administration admitted that in reviewing documents requested by Democrats for their investigations, it discovered that as many as 50 of its staffers may have violated the Presidential Records Act. The staffers, the White House said, were using e-mail accounts, laptops and BlackBerries provided by the Republican National Committee for official executive branch communications rather than the exclusively political work for which they were intended. Because the RNC had a policy until 2004 of erasing all e-mails on its servers after 30 days, including those by White House staffers, and because some of those staffers may have deleted e-mails on their own, the White House said it could not assure Congress that they have not violated the PRA, which requires the retention of official White House documents. The White House officials who may have broken the law include senior adviser Karl Rove, his deputies and much of their staffs.
As in Clinton’s case, the Bush administration e-mails were sought as evidence in government investigations. No no charges were filed and no criminal wrongdoing was found in regard to Clinton’s handling of e-mails. Bush aides were found in contempt of Congress for not complying with subpoenas in the U.S. attorney firings investigation, but no punishment was handed down.
Clinton’s email habits look positively transparent when compared with the subpoena-dodging, email-hiding, private-server-using George W. Bush administration. Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House “lost” 22 million emails. This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in America’s recent history, when the Bush administration was ginning up support for what turned out to be a disastrous war in Iraq with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and, later, when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons.
The comparison is apt in some ways, not so much in others. One similarity is the use of private e-mail servers in lieu of government ones. During the course of a Congressional investigation it was found that many Bush White House staffers (including then-Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove) had conducted official business via private e-mail accounts on a server owned and maintained by the Republican National Committee. Then it was revealed that as many as 22 million e-mails sent and received via these private accounts “were not preserved” in accordance with the Presidential Records Act of 1978, which requires that all official communications be archived and accounted for:
The Bush Administration admitted that in reviewing documents requested by Democrats for their investigations, it discovered that as many as 50 of its staffers may have violated the Presidential Records Act. The staffers, the White House said, were using e-mail accounts, laptops and BlackBerries provided by the Republican National Committee for official executive branch communications rather than the exclusively political work for which they were intended. Because the RNC had a policy until 2004 of erasing all e-mails on its servers after 30 days, including those by White House staffers, and because some of those staffers may have deleted e-mails on their own, the White House said it could not assure Congress that they have not violated the PRA, which requires the retention of official White House documents. The White House officials who may have broken the law include senior adviser Karl Rove, his deputies and much of their staffs.
As in Clinton’s case, the Bush administration e-mails were sought as evidence in government investigations. No no charges were filed and no criminal wrongdoing was found in regard to Clinton’s handling of e-mails. Bush aides were found in contempt of Congress for not complying with subpoenas in the U.S. attorney firings investigation, but no punishment was handed down.
What part of NO CLASSIFIED MATERIAL are you having trouble understanding?