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AV1611 Translator Sidenotes 2: Matthew

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RaptureReady

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Originally posted by Ed Edwards:
I believe that God's word is
complete in every generation in the language
that most people can benefit from.
God never changes, His word was complete in
in the first century, His word is complete
in the 21st century.
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Yes, I agree.
BTW, if the word of God was complete
in the KJV1611, how come KJBOs use
the KJV1769 to a fault???

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They are the same except for some printing, typo and spelling corrections.
 
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RaptureReady

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Originally posted by Ed Edwards:
S.Matthew XI:12 (KJV1611):
And from the dayes of Iohn the
Baptist, vntill now, the kingdome of
heauen ||suffereth violence, and
the violent take it by force.

||OR, is gotten by force, and they
that thrust men

S.Matthew XI:12 (KJV1611alt):
And from the dayes of Iohn the
Baptist, vntill now, the kingdome of
heauen is gotten by force, and they
that thrust men.

Matthew 11:12 (TMB = Third Millinnium Bible):
And from the days of John the
Baptist until now, the Kingdom of
Heaven suffereth violence, and
the violent take it by force.

Matthew 11:12 (The Message):
For a long time now people have tried
to force themselves into God's kingdom.

Matthew 11:12(Young's Literal Translation):
And, from the days of John the
Baptist till now, the reign
of the heavens doth suffer violence, and
violent men do take it by force,

Matthew 11:12 (ASV):
And from the days of John the
Baptist until now the kingdom of
heaven suffereth violence, and
men of violence take it by force.

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What is your point with these references?
 
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Ed Edwards

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Originally posted by HomeBound:
Sidenotes? Is that the same thing as the references and notes in my Scofield Study Bible?
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No. The notes by Schofield
are notes by Schofield giving His
opinion ofwhat Schofield thinks the
Bible says (which i found to be very good,
but surely not inerrant).

The KJV1873 has translator footnotes
instead of translator sidenotes as
in the KJV1611.

Also, in the original KJV1611 are sidenotes
denoted by an asterick (*) that suggest
related scriptures.

BTW, Chick Comics say that the
KJV1611 translator sidenotes show
the infltration from Satan thru
the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) into
the contaminated KJV1611. But
the KJV1769 is alright.
My recommendation: avoid comic book
theology.
 
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Precepts

New Member
Homebound, Try Hendrickson Publishers, Inc.
P.O. Box 3473
Peabody, MA 01961-3473

I paid $29.95 for my AV 1611 KJB through Bearing Precious Seed Ministries. Try a search on that ministry and also Bible Believers.com

http://www.biblebelievers.com/believers-org/kjv-stats.html

I wouldn't buy anything from Nelson or Zondervan either.

http://www.biblebelievers.com/believers-org/counterfeit-kjv.html

Just of note:

http://www.biblebelievers.com/believers-org/kjv-stats.html

Man, those were some BIG changes on the all authoritive thread Ed gave, huh? :rolleyes:

[ March 02, 2004, 12:23 AM: Message edited by: Precepts ]
 
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GrannyGumbo

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WOW!!! I enjoyed those links-thanky! At this late date, I doubt I'll be buying another Bible, but if I do, it will be with great caution...there are deceivers within the camp!

If ya can't destroy without, then do it from within!
 
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Precepts

New Member
Originally posted by GrannyGumbo:
WOW!!! I enjoyed those links-thanky! At this late date, I doubt I'll be buying another Bible, but if I do, it will be with great caution...there are deceivers within the camp!

If ya can't destroy without, then do it from within!
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Just of note to that last statement in italics and I'm not picking on what you said:

They can't destroy us within, Jesus is in there! And they'll NEVER take Jesus out of my heart!
 
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GrannyGumbo

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Amen to that, BroRicky! Even if there is a misprint, intentional or not, the KJBible is still the Word of God-as was its ancestors.
 
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Ed Edwards

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From the search engine at Crosswalk.com:

Then the Pharisees went out,
and held F25 a council against him,
how they might destroy him.
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FOOTNOTES:
F25: held...: or, took counsel

That is: Matthew 12:14 (KJV1769).

Matthew 12:14 (KJV1769alt):

Then the Pharisees went out,
and took counsel against him,
how they might destroy him.

Interesting, the search engine at Crosswalk.com
has the King James version, 1769 edition text
but the original 1611 translator's notes.

Hummmmmm....
An electronic copy. That will make my
posts 10 min to post instead of 30 when
i was typing from the KJV1611.

My Bible is Holy, even the translator footnotes!!!
/ed wanders off pondering if the
book of Maps is inerrant???/

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Jim Ward

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Originally posted by GrannyGumbo:
WOW!!! I enjoyed those links-thanky! At this late date, I doubt I'll be buying another Bible, but if I do, it will be with great caution...there are deceivers within the camp!

If ya can't destroy without, then do it from within!
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AMEN Granny!! Now I agree with Ricky, but do know that our enemy will try every tactic he can to et us away from God and His truths. We even have one of these decpetive bibles telling us that God can be decieved, as Ricky so correctly pointed out in a previous thread.


Jim
 
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Ed Edwards

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Originally posted by Precepts:
I paid $29.95 for my AV 1611 KJB through Bearing Precious Seed Ministries. Try a search on that ministry and also Bible Believers.com
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I tryed a search.
I want a hot link.
Thank you.

Note: ed provided a hot link
to the KJV1611 of which he spake.
I accuse you of being obtuse and obstinate.
Now you may be acting like you
are making it hard for
people to find out which Bible you
actually use to SHOW UP the folks
that believe in the non-avialable
"original autographs". I'll tell
them and you if necessary: I want
the inerrant Holy Bible in my hand.
(note that "in my hand" is a
metaphor that means "on my screen"
)
 
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Ed Edwards

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Originally posted by Jim Ward:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GrannyGumbo:
WOW!!! I enjoyed those links-thanky! At this late date, I doubt I'll be buying another Bible, but if I do, it will be with great caution...there are deceivers within the camp!

If ya can't destroy without, then do it from within!
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AMEN Granny!! Now I agree with Ricky, but do know that our enemy will try every tactic he can to et us away from God and His truths. We even have one of these decpetive bibles telling us that God can be decieved, as Ricky so correctly pointed out in a previous thread.

Jim </font>[/QUOTE]I can't believe that
you fell for Ricky's deception.

Ricky assumes that God cannot preserve
the Holy Scripture save in one and only
one book. Then he won't tell us which book
is his one book nor give us a hot link to
it. Total deception, seems to me.

By contrast, i provided a hot link to where you
can buy the book like i use. Kinda pricy.

Here is a place where you can check out the
translator footnotes online:

Crosswalk Bible search engine

OF course, the hard part remains, what
does those translator footnotes mean?
Are the footnotes as inerrant as the text?
Why do most editions of the KJB omit
the footnotes?
Did you kow in the original KJV1611 that
the translator notes were in the margin
hense were sidenotes?

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