And they did exactly this when they baptized in Jesus' name.
Exactly it is the exact same thing
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And they did exactly this when they baptized in Jesus' name.
It is not a formula. It is indoctrination that nobody would come up with on their own.Hey bub, didn't TCassidy explain to you its not a formula?
No! They are distinct but not separate. That is what "Trinity" means. Three in ONE. You can't take a meat cleaver to the Triunity of the Godhead!There are 3 separate and Distinct Persons within Godhead, correct?
I believe all who are baptised as believers by immersion are baptized. But there is Power in the Name of Jesus Christ that is missing in most cases.Exactly it is the exact same thing
there is also God the father and Holy Spirit also!And they did exactly this when they baptized in Jesus' name.
There are 3 Persons within the One Being of God Himself.No! They are distinct but not separate. That is what "Trinity" means. Three in ONE. You can't take a meat cleaver to the Triunity of the Godhead!
Yes, but all of God is YAHWEH = Jesus Christ in bodily form.there is also God the father and Holy Spirit also!
Not at all. But I think we've got it wrong thanks to the Catholics. And they also weighted us down with a lot more baggage if we start comparing our worship to theirs.
When jesus was here, was the father still in heaven, and the Holy Spirit hear also?Yes, but all of God is YAHWEH = Jesus Christ in bodily form.
Yes, but all of God is YAHWEH = Jesus Christ in bodily form.
Not all of God was manifested in Jesus, as there were still the Father and Spirit operating even during the time he was here on earth!Just one more, lol.
This statement seems to indicate a belief that when God took on the flesh of man that He did so in entirety (which creates the concept of the Throne of God being vacant during the Incarnation).
Is that what you are saying? If so, or, if not, could you explain what you mean by this statement in a little more detail, and I will take a look when I return.
God bless.
I did no such thing. The NAME of Jesus in the OT Hebrew was "Jehoshua" meaning "Jehovah is Salvation." There was no single human at that time walking the earth who personified that Name, just as there is no single human at this time walking the earth who personifies the Name of Jesus.The part where you impose into Joshua something that took place at the beginning of the First Century.
Explain how? Jesus is the NAME of the Messiah/Savior. "Jehoshua" is that NAME in Hebrew. That is a construct of "Jehovah is Salvation." If that is not a Name but merely a name, doesn't that deny the deity of Christ the Messiah?This is the exact opposite of what I pointed out.
The Name of Jesus, in Hebrew "Jehoshua" was known in the OT and was preached by every OT prophet.The Name of Jesus was not known to men until the beginning of the First Century.
I, living on the Mexican border, know several men named "Jesus" but none of them can be mistaken for God the Son. Just as there may have been several persons in the OT named "Joshua" none of them could be mistaken for God the Son.While men knew a number of "Joshuas," it is really quite easy to distinguish between them.
Yes, I know. "Jehovah" is a made up name because the Orthodox Jews believed the Name of God, YHWH (usually transliterated as "Yahwah" or "Yahway") was too holy to speak so they took the consonants YHWH and combined them with the vowels from the other Hebrew word for "Lord" Adonai and came up with YaHoWaH or Jehovah. And "Jehovah Saves" is the meaning of "Jehoshua."And in case you were not aware, there is a difference between Jehovah and "Jehovah saves."
As there is no time, sequence, or duration in Heaven, the physical body of God the Son exists in the Eternal Now.So tell me, did the Son of God remain in a physical body from Genesis 18 until the Incarnation?
No, being enthroned at the Right Hand of the Majesty of High is hardly being on the shelf.Or that form set on a shelf until needed?
Nope. Got is just right.Got that backwards, don't you?
Jesus ascended, in His physical body, into Eternity. Then, from Eternity (where every time on the time scale is "NOW") he went to talk to Abraham, then went back to Eternity. He can do that. It is not too hard for Him. There is nothing too hard for God. Jer 32:17.From eternity to the plains of Mamre to eternity again, and from eternity to the womb of Mary, to the Cross, and then to Eternity again.
I believe the Triunity of God is Eternal. No part of the Trinity had a beginning, nor will any part of the Trinity have an end.I did not know you believed God has always been a man.
I don't. Joshua was the son of Nun. Jehushua is the Son of none.So while you might equate Joshua to Jesus, I do not, and the Scriptures do not.
More blasphemy! Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.Not all of God was manifested in Jesus,
I did no such thing. The NAME of Jesus in the OT Hebrew was "Jehoshua" meaning "Jehovah is Salvation." There was no single human at that time walking the earth who personified that Name, just as there is no single human at this time walking the earth who personifies the Name of Jesus.
Explain how? Jesus is the NAME of the Messiah/Savior. "Jehoshua" is that NAME in Hebrew. That is a construct of "Jehovah is Salvation." If that is not a Name but merely a name, doesn't that deny the deity of Christ the Messiah?
The Name of Jesus, in Hebrew "Jehoshua" was known in the OT and was preached by every OT prophet.
I, living on the Mexican border, know several men named "Jesus" but none of them can be mistaken for God the Son. Just as there may have been several persons in the OT named "Joshua" none of them could be mistaken for God the Son.
Yes, I know. "Jehovah" is a made up name because the Orthodox Jews believed the Name of God, YHWH (usually transliterated as "Yahwah" or "Yahway") was too holy to speak so they took the consonants YHWH and combined them with the vowels from the other Hebrew word for "Lord" Adonai and came up with YaHoWaH or Jehovah. And "Jehovah Saves" is the meaning of "Jehoshua."
As there is no time, sequence, or duration in Heaven, the physical body of God the Son exists in the Eternal Now.
No, being enthroned at the Right Hand of the Majesty of High is hardly being on the shelf.
Nope. Got is just right.
Jesus ascended, in His physical body, into Eternity. Then, from Eternity (where every time on the time scale is "NOW") he went to talk to Abraham, then went back to Eternity. He can do that. It is not too hard for Him. There is nothing too hard for God. Jer 32:17.
I believe the Triunity of God is Eternal. No part of the Trinity had a beginning, nor will any part of the Trinity have an end.
I don't. Joshua was the son of Nun. Jehushua is the Son of none.
If you want to truly discuss this issue, then you will address the Scripture and the points presented to you, starting with this:
Hebrews 4:8
King James Version (KJV)
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Is the name of Jesus in this verse or the Name of Jesus.
Answer.
When God manifested in physical form unto Abraham in Genesis 18...it was not the form created in Mary's womb that the Eternal Son of God took up residence in.
Of course it was. Jesus went from earth into Eternity at the Ascension then from Eternity to earth in the days of Abraham. Just how many physical bodies do you think Jesus had?
I believe the Triunity of God is Eternal. No part of the Trinity had a beginning, nor will any part of the Trinity have an end.
Yes, it was. Hebrew Jehoshua = Greek Jesus.Jesus was not His pre Incarnate name
Jesus ascended, in His physical body, into Eternity. Then, from Eternity (where every time on the time scale is "NOW") he went to talk to Abraham, then went back to Eternity. He can do that. It is not too hard for Him. There is nothing too hard for God. Jer 32:17.
Got that backwards, don't you?
From eternity to the plains of Mamre to eternity again, and from eternity to the womb of Mary, to the Cross, and then to Eternity again.
Hebrews 10
King James Version (KJV)
5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
The Writer also uses katartizō here...
Hebrews 11
King James Version (KJV)
3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
But really, after you address these passages, I would love to see the Scripture by which you support that the Body Jesus Christ died in has always existed.
I did not know you believed God has always been a man.
The Bible I study from teaches...
Philippians 2:5-7
King James Version (KJV)
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Wow. That is a vile heresy. The Eternality of the Son is a foundational doctrine of the Christian faith!Jesus did not exist before His incarnation, as God the Son Himself assumed on human flesh, and then became Jesus of Nazareth. he was not called Jesus when here as the Angel of the Lord for example.
Jesus ascended, in His physical body, into Eternity. Then, from Eternity (where every time on the time scale is "NOW") he went to talk to Abraham, then went back to Eternity. He can do that. It is not too hard for Him. There is nothing too hard for God. Jer 32:17.
I am just trying to help you move past the ole Dispy teaching brother!
(Unwarranted (but funny) rudeness edited)I am just trying to help you move past the ole Dispy teaching brother!
God bless.
So you saying that we would baptize based upon the authority invested into that Ordinance of the Church by the 3 Persons of God?
Unwarranted rudeness editedSo you saying that we would baptize based upon the authority invested into that Ordinance of the Church by the 3 Persons of God?