Baptism - Sprinkled or Dunked?

[Charlie24]

Oh, ok, I see! Then to you that's what it is.

If you decide you would like to discuss it further in the future, I'll be around.

 

[Cathode]

Oh, ok, I see! Then to you that's what it is.

For us Baptism is that spiritual Circumcision, nowhere in all preceding Christianity before Zwingli was Baptism taught to be merely symbolic. I couldn’t find it, all the ancient Churches East and West unanimously taught that Baptism was the spiritual Circumcision, was Regeneration and given to infants.

That’s why the other reformers looked at Zwingli like he was nuts. He was up against the entirety of the Christian world and all preceding for 1500 years.

It was a new crazy idea Zwingli interpreted from scripture.

So you can either accept the Authority of all of the Christian world universally back to the Apostles or accept Zwingli on his own.

 

[Cathode]

I just thought of something else to add to the conversation.

1 Cor. 1:17

"For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect."

Paul didn't water baptize but a very few in the beginning of his ministry. His associates and helpers did the water baptizing.

This is water baptism he is here speaking of. He let them do the water baptizing, because God didn't send Paul out to water baptize, God sent Paul out to preach the Gospel where the Holy Spirit reaches in the heart and spiritually baptizes.

Anyone can baptise, provided they use the right formula of words, have the intention to do as the church requires, and performs the proper actions.

Paul’s main mission was to preach the gospel, this is correct, Jesus sent him for the proclamation of the Faith.

 

[Charlie24]

Anyone can baptise, provided they use the right formula of words, have the intention to do as the church requires, and performs the proper actions.

Paul’s main mission was to preach the gospel, this is correct, Jesus sent him for the proclamation of the Faith.

Remember when John the Baptist came along and said this,

Matt. 3:11

"I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:"

This is the spiritual baptism of Colossians 2 and Romans 6. It's the circumcision of Christ, the circumcision made without hands.

It's what we call the born-again experience.

You've probably heard the old preachers especially in the 1800's preach on it. This is before the Pentecostal Movement came around 1900 and got it all mixed up with their baptism of the Holy Spirit, which is entirely a different baptism.