Biblical Chastening

I admire your honesty and looking for the correct answer to remembering no more and the remembering.

 

AMEN! Exactly what I was thinking!

 

I to have thought a lot about this issue. It does challenge the mind doesn't it?

 

I don't think this question has been answered yet, if so I don't remember the answer.

What is the purpose of sending an unfaithful believer to outerdarkness, hell, lake of fire for chastisement of 1000 years?

 

1. What do you mean by correct answer?

2. I believe what the Bible says.

 

So do I and He said He would remember them no more, and He doesn't. Now any new sins is a different matter. (correct answer)

I must of misunderstood you and you were not saying what I thought you did, but what I thought you would say.

 

1. If God says he will not remember sins anymore, how can I challenge what God says?

2. God says it, that settles it, whether I believe it or not.

 

Amen!

God is not a man that He should lie. God cannot lie. If He said He would not remember the sins against us anymore, then He will be true to His Word and the sins will not be remembered against us.

 

To give the ME crowd a little more elbow room?

 

This has been my position all along...you asked for clarity a couple weeks back and I gave it. I've always maintained there would be a difference amongst those that rule and those that don't. Kingdoms are made up of a king, those the king puts in charge (see Joseph), and subjects. Your theology has a kingdom full of rulers only.

 

Well, I am sure TC: you know the next question.
If all sins past, present and future are not to be remembered ever again, then when you sin after being saved, why is that sin then remembered against you through chastisement, an advocate with God because of that sin?
I honestly do not know how these two different times in your life, both concerning sin that Jesus said He would remember no more.
Then how can He remember it?

 

Here's a clarifying question, Are we chastise for sins that we commit after we have been saved?

 

Yes..................

 

Rom 5:17 says that all the saved are going to reign with Jesus Christ.

 

Then we seem to be in sync.

 

Then those sins couldn't of been covered when you were first saved?

 

Blows a hole in the ME proponents doctrine, doesn't it?

 

1. My understanding of the Atonement means that Christ paid for my sins in full, past, present and future.

2. John says that if we confess our present sins the blood of Christ still cleanses, because they have been covered.

3. Christ sacrifice was once for all time. Let's not forget that great truth.

4. Only his shed blood can take away sins, not bulls and goats, and certainly not punishment (Heb 9:22; 10:1-4).

5. Show me in Scripture where chastisement/punishment takes away sins?

 

I think so, but they are great dancers with the text.

 

I really think you struggle to be completely honest TC;

If He remembers a sin of yours again, then something is wrong, is the only way I know how to put it. I certainly not going to say the Lord told a lie.

The way I have it figured out is the atonement was made to God. When Jesus gave His blood, He gave it all. When you sin after being saved, Jesus has to plead your case to God for you, who has the atonement. God must have it. What about when a new convert is saved?

Now that is what I believe.

I was praying you came back with an answer that was close to mine, I guess it was not to be.