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NE that he really saves ever will get lost again!Do you trust him?
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Calvinism and Aminianism and their influence on Adventist belief
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NE that he really saves ever will get lost again!Do you trust him?
Hobie
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We must have faith in Him, but even the devils know the truth and yet they tremble.Jesus Himself stated that N
Do you trust him?
James 2:19 King James Version (KJV)
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Many Christians continue in the bond of iniquity, but they will be found out.
Luke 13:26-28 King James Version (KJV)
26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
37818
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Those who overcome are a son of God, ". . . He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. . . ." Revelation 21:7.
Who are they? ". . . For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. . . ." 1 John 5:4.
NONE of them were ever saved....
37818
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Revelation 3:5 says the overcomer will not be blotted out of the book, do you deny that?
Hobie
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We must ask for the Holy Spirit to transform our hearts and minds, and be born again and show the fruits.
Galatians 5:22-23 King James Version (KJV)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Hobie
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That is why with Christ's power, we need to overcome the bondage of sin...
Revelation 2:26
And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Particular
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John 16:33 I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
Galatians 2:20-21 I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.
37818
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False. The transformation is the free gift result from the new birth. ". . .Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. . . ." 2 Corinthians 5:17.
37818
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A false view.
Revelation 2:26 is true,
". . . And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: . . ." Because, 1 John 5:4-5, ". . . For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? . . . " Either one is now an overcomer or one is yet lost.
Hobie
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And how are you born again, through the Holy Spirit..
1 Peter 1:22-23 King James Version (KJV)
22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
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Hobie
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We must in faith accept Christ into our hearts and His righteousness and then having this 'mind of Christ' in us, overcome like Christ.
Philippians 2:5-8 King James Version (KJV)
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Hobie
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Amen..
1 John 4:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
1 John 5:3-5 King James Version (KJV)
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
Hobie
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I think again the issue here seems to be what it means to being born again, we solve that and then the truth is evident. The Father, Son and the Holy Ghost each are involved in this process of being born again. So that is the question at hand that we wrestle with, and we are all putting our hands on a part of it, like the proverbial elephant in the room, but we need to put them together to understand the answer.
37818
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By believing in God's Christ. 1 John 5:1, "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . ."
Jesus already has overcame the world, as do all of us now found in Him!
The Father has all of the saved in His hand, and NONE can take out of their security, and Jesus died in our stead, and the Spirit Himself seals us eternally into Christ!
3 cords that can never be broken!
Hobie
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And yet many who call themselves Christian but still are under the bondage of iniquity will at the end hear Christ say to depart from Him...
Matthew 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Jesus never knew them as His own, so never were saved!
Hobie
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Exactly, we cannot be presumptuous and reject Gods Law and be under the bondage of sin, and say we are saved. We need to repent of sin and iniquity, and have Christ in us and we in Him...
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 3:19
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.
Matthew 4:17
From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.