ACH,
They closed the other thread as I was writing this: so i will put this here..as time permits i will respond to the other post.....
They closed the other thread as I was writing this: so i will put this here..as time permits i will respond to the other post.....
Ach.
The saga continues....it is time for an episode of BB-CSI....cyber-crimes unit.
You contention is to blame me and other Cals....it is our fault,we did not understand, and we have framed you???
Well if I did that I would apologize...Maybe I missed something, lets look-
Here it is the scene of the alleged cyber-crime: let's see what you said as according to you after you were caught...this was your "bait"...you wanted the evil cals to "attack" the teaching of scripture.........
Originally Posted by DrJamesAch View Post
OK I will give you your chances to pick me apart.
1],I will write out what I believe TULIP to mean
If you wanted to do that...go for it, but no....you cut and paste,which would be okay, if you said that is what you were doing.....however-
2]and you all can tell me how straw man I am.
okay...you are trying to provoke an attack....whatever....
3].If I am wrong, then I will concede that I do not understand Calvinism and go on my merry way
We know you are wrong,because to lie in this way shows a sad desperation.
You keep saying ....I,I,I....but as brother Willis has pointed out...it was never you at all.....:wavey:
4]I will explain this from a Calvinist position, and then if you can not pick apart my description of Calvinism, then you agree that there has been no misrepresentation of Calvinism on my part, but that you simply don't like my conclusions.
Clearly guilty of the lie.....no doubt about it my friend...but now you contend that we want to frame you,and we do not understand....
Now did I attack you? Did I frame you? let's look to see if I as you requested "pick on you"....here is my reply.....again...
ACH,
Now no one is going to pick at this as it is more in line with what is believed by cals'.
Even though you mislead everyone by lying....you notice the response
Now no one is going to pick at this
no one is here just to pick on someone...we just ask that you accurately represent what you yourself want to attack....
There was no objection to the doctrine you posted ,and I offered an explanation explaining it just that way...at this as it is more in line with what is believed by cals
Where you get "picked on" is your posts that give no indications of any of these truths you presented here..
the cut and paste material was from scripture when the person you stole it from wrote it....there was no objection to God's truth..in fact I was trying to encourage you that if you want to object to do so...go ahead ,just explain it correctly and then say why you do not see it the same way....
.In other words....what you have stated cal's believe in other posts....could be answered by your own post here as source material..
you posted enough truth here that i said it could be used to answer your own wrong posts....
No matter what any Non Calvinist says to you or any of your cronies, it will always be considered a lie for no other reason than that it is not compatible with your point of view.
We have had many back and forth interactions....but no one has intentionally lied as you have.
You have demonstrated that you do not know the difference between a lie, a misrepresentation, a fallacy, a misunderstanding, an untruth and a contradiction.
I beg to differ counselor.....I think this:
27 Tekel; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.
.The failure to understand this is why many Non Cals become frustrated and refuse to engage with you because accusing some one of a lie is much more personal then simply accepting that another person's point of view is incongruent with your own
The frustration could be that sometimes I can be annoying and maybe not likely in a debate setting as one said...to "play nice". If an "attack" comes hopefully scripturally based....there will be a scriptural response that will address the issue.
However....most of the frustration comes from an inability to give scriptural responses back to those offered...as you have shown in every other thread....
.What I did in catching you and others was not a deliberate lie to cause malfeasance and detriment to another person
Other than Dude, and HOS....everyone else has seen it differently,for what it is....cals/non cals ...all agreed...
I used a similar tactic that Paul used in 2 Corinthians 12:16 because with so many of you accusing others of purposely lying about what you believe and deliberately misrepresenting your position, it was necessary to show that you were merely using such an accusation in a pejorative matter to gain an advantage in a debate at all costs. What you and the others are really angry about is the fact that you got caught, not that what I said was a lie or untrue.
The only thing you caught was your foot in your mouth.You are not operating in the same way as the Apostle Paul....not even close.
If you want to continue on in here...i would recommend that you listen to the other posters who have asked you to repent and then move forward if you want to have any credibility....:thumbsup:
