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Can Non Calvinists Believe the Gospel Of The Kingdom? Is that Even Possible?

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
Recently we have witnessed a couple of threads with the joyful titles Do Calvinists believe the same gospel?
Or the other favorite; The gospel a Calvinists cannot believe!

What followed were posts whining about the doctrines of grace offered by those who do not understand the basic ideas of Calvinism.

Then of course we had a few who tried to tell us, they used to be Calvinists, until they became more enlightened, or they somehow were Calvinists but at the same time, had never really came to the position by bible study, but rather got swept up in logic, or philosophy, or some other thing.

Others with a dispensational flavor to their study find no place for Historic confessional thought, much less Biblical thought and teaching as expressed by the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Apostles.
Several others knowingly or unknowingly follow the new measures of Charles Grandison Finney, look to emotional decisionism, and physical external substitutes to replace careful exegesis of scripture itself.

Some seem to think it is fashionable to explain these truths away as, Theory, or Gnostic philosophy, as if that gives them a reason not to answer to scripture when called upon, they just seek to dismiss the biblical claims.

Others proudly declare they are Baptists, and my bible says...this and that/ and there is no need to look into it.
Discussion of Election, Predestination, Covenants are unnecessary and tedious to discuss, and if you post more than a bumper sticker, or a meme, I am not going to read it.
Add the idol of man's free will, or Just quote Jn. 3:16, as if that is the whole ball of wax!

Do you think they can see through these obstacles and come to truth ?
Thankfully, many hope that God will grant them repentance and faith and remove some of these obstacles.

What do you think???
many who disagree with us on biblical doctrines such as election and predestination and the fall also claim we are the ones holding to "non biblical authors and sources", yet do they not also have similar sources they cite and use to try to refute us? Also, it appears that many have a defective view on the Fall and just what happened to entire human race afterwards, and many also try to limit God not being all knowing, nor Him being "fair" in his salvation methods, as they require God to honor the sacred cow of free will in salvation
 

Zaatar71

Active Member
many who disagree with us on biblical doctrines such as election and predestination and the fall also claim we are the ones holding to "non biblical authors and sources", yet do they not also have similar sources they cite and use to try to refute us? Also, it appears that many have a defective view on the Fall and just what happened to entire human race afterwards, and many also try to limit God not being all knowing, nor Him being "fair" in his salvation methods, as they require God to honor the sacred cow of free will in salvation
Yes. This is a fair summary statement that points to the fatal flaws in their understanding. That is why they repeat the same worn out objections. Many just invent ideas that make no real sense to anyone , but it let;s them feel the slayed the Calvinist Dragon.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
many who disagree with us on biblical doctrines such as election and predestination and the fall also claim we are the ones holding to "non biblical authors and sources", yet do they not also have similar sources they cite and use to try to refute us? Also, it appears that many have a defective view on the Fall and just what happened to entire human race afterwards, and many also try to limit God not being all knowing, nor Him being "fair" in his salvation methods, as they require God to honor the sacred cow of free will in salvation

We just go back the word of God.

You keep resorting to your non-biblical sources as if they are to be trusted more than scripture.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
Yes. This is a fair summary statement that points to the fatal flaws in their understanding. That is why they repeat the same worn out objections. Many just invent ideas that make no real sense to anyone , but it let;s them feel the slayed the Calvinist Dragon.

We keep repeating the same objections in the hope that you will finally realize the error of your man-made philosophy.
 
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