Catholicism is not compatible with Christianity

[DHK]

Go to the source itself. If you don't believe me, go to the Catechism, the official one posted by the Vatican.

Article 1

THE SACRAMENT OF BAPTISM

1213 Holy Baptism is the basis of the whole Christian life, the gateway to life in the Spirit (vitae spiritualis ianua),4 and the door which gives access to the other sacraments. Through Baptism we are freed from sin and reborn as sons of God; we become members of Christ, are incorporated into the Church and made sharers in her mission: "Baptism is the sacrament of regeneration through water in the word."5

I. What is This Sacrament Called?

1214 This sacrament is called Baptism, after the central rite by which it is carried out: to baptize (Greek baptizein) means to "plunge" or "immerse"; the "plunge" into the water symbolizes the catechumen's burial into Christ's death, from which he rises up by resurrection with him, as "a new creature."6

1215 This sacrament is also called "the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit," for it signifies and actually brings about the birth of water and the Spirit without which no one "can enter the kingdom of God."7

1216 "This bath is called enlightenment, because those who receive this [catechetical] instruction are enlightened in their understanding

. . . ."8 Having received in Baptism the Word, "the true light that enlightens every man," the person baptized has been "enlightened," he becomes a "son of light," indeed, he becomes "light" himself:9

Baptism is God's most beautiful and magnificent gift....We call it gift, grace, anointing, enlightenment, garment of immortality, bath of rebirth, seal, and most precious gift. It is called gift because it is conferred on those who bring nothing of their own; grace since it is given even to the guilty; Baptism because sin is buried in the water; anointing for it is priestly and royal as are those who are anointed; enlightenment because it radiates light; clothing since it veils our shame; bath because it washes; and seal as it is our guard and the sign of God's Lordship.10

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P3G.HTM

Baptism is equivalent to the new birth, according to the Catholic Catechism, and upon baptism one enters the RCC without which there is no salvation.
That puts the RCC in the realm of a cult. Outside the RCC there is no salvation. That is their teaching.

I was a Catholic for 20 years, and never heard the gospel presented once.

 

[evangelist6589]

Really? Why do you think that? Because I disagree with you I must be ignorant?

What foolishness!

You have completely missed the point I made about church doctrine not saving people. Catholic doctrine doesn't save people. Reformed doctrine doesn't save people. Baptist doctrine doesn't save people. Biblical doctrine doesn't save people. Jesus saves people. Knowledge is not salvation.

Okay so let's pretend that Catholic doctrine means nothing and ignore it. Is this what you want?

 

[Revmitchell]

Okay so let's pretend that Catholic doctrine means nothing and ignore it. Is this what you want?

Well there is a post that will win friends and influence people!Rolleyes

 

[evangelist6589]

Well there is a post that will win friends and influence people!Rolleyes

How exactly is your view on Catholicism Biblical? Explain.

 

[Revmitchell]

How exactly is your view on Catholicism Biblical? Explain.

What you do not seem to understand is Catholics are not monolithic. I know what they post as their theology is but not all of them hold to exactly everything the church teaches. You want to lump all Catholics under one banner and deem them all lost. This is not necessary. Some do believe in a scriptural understanding of salvation. Most often people are part of the Catholic church because if they were to leave it they would be ostracized by their family. Catholicism runs deep in their families. Before you judge someone not saved be sure and get to know them one by one as individuals. Otherwise you may be guilty of being a false witness against someone.

Now, that has nothing to do with what I posted. Your snarkiness to BB was uncalled for and is the exact opposite of what you wanted done to you in that other thread you started. Apologize to BB and find a better way to respond to his post you disagree with.

 

[evangelist6589]

What you do not seem to understand is Catholics are not monolithic. I know what they post as their theology is but not all of them hold to exactly everything the church teaches. You want to lump all Catholics under one banner and deem them all lost. This is not necessary. Some do believe in a scriptural understanding of salvation. Most often people are part of the Catholic church because if they were to leave it they would be ostracized by their family. Catholicism runs deep in their families. Before you judge someone not saved be sure and get to know them one by one as individuals. Otherwise you may be guilty of being a false witness against someone.

Now, that has nothing to do with what I posted. Your snarkiness to BB was uncalled for and is the exact opposite of what you wanted done to you in that other thread you started. Apologize to BB and find a better way to respond to his post you disagree with.

I never said all Catholics are going to Hell. But you have to admit that this post has painted Catholicism in a positive light. Since you will not read a book on the topic (my guess) I suggest you listen to some sermons on Catholicism by Mac.

 

[evangelist6589]

BB if I offended you I am sorry.

 

[Internet Theologian]

I never said all Catholics are going to Hell. But you have to admit that this post has painted Catholicism in a positive light. Since you will not read a book on the topic (my guess) I suggest you listen to some sermons on Catholicism by Mac.

I find it of interest this one defending apostate Catholicism takes great pains to malign those on here who preach the true Gospel. It's behavior to take note of for certain.

 

[Rolfe]

I never said all Catholics are going to Hell.

Essentially you did:

You can't meet saved Catholics.

 

[rsr]

I have no idea how this fits into "Baptist Theology and Bible Study."

 

[evangelist6589]

Essentially you did:

You can't meet saved Catholics that affirm Catholic doctrine. You can meet however saved people that are ignorant of Catholic doctrine just in Catholic Churches.

 

[Revmitchell]

I never said all Catholics are going to Hell.

Yes you did.

But you have to admit that this post has painted Catholicism in a positive light.

No, it paints some people who are Catholics in a positive light.

Since you will not read a book on the topic (my guess) I suggest you listen to some sermons on Catholicism by Mac.

Son, you will never learn anything if you believe you already know everything. Your attempt here to smear all Catholics is sophomoric at best. You really need to set aside your ego. If you do you will find your relationships at church will improve, your family will improve, and your time on this forum will improve.

 

[Revmitchell]

You can't meet saved Catholics

This is where your original statement ended.

that affirm Catholic doctrine. You can meet however saved people that are ignorant of Catholic doctrine just in Catholic Churches.

This is called back peddling.

 

[Rolfe]

You can't meet saved Catholics that affirm Catholic doctrine. You can meet however saved people that are ignorant of Catholic doctrine just in Catholic Churches.

Says who? I would like to know what you base your comment on.

 

[Rolfe]

Thought: I wonder how many people on this site think that it is impossible for Lutherans to be saved by Our Lord.

 

[evangelist6589]

Yes you did.



No, it paints some people who are Catholics in a positive light.



Son, you will never learn anything if you believe you already know everything. Your attempt here to smear all Catholics is sophomoric at best. You really need to set aside your ego. If you do you will find your relationships at church will improve, your family will improve, and your time on this forum will improve.

Did I say that I knew everything? If I believed I knew everything I would not be reading and recommending books would I? Of coarse I do not know everything!

 

[evangelist6589]

Says who? I would like to know what you base your comment on.

Because Catholic doctrine is another gospel (Gal 1:8-9).

 

[JonC]

I see you know next to nothing on the central teachings of Catholicism. Next to nothing on the Catholic version of Justification which includes works. You need to do your homework before you post.

Catholics believe a person is justified by works and not by faith alone?

 

[evangelist6589]

Catholics believe a person is justified by works and not by faith alone?

Faith + Works but works are a vital part of the equation in their theology.

If any one saith, that thy faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him by anathema" (From the Council of Trent, Canons on Justification, Canon 9).

If any one saith, that man is truly absolved from his sins and justified, because he assuredly believed himself absolved and justified; or, that no one is truly justified but he who believes himself justified; and that, by this faith alone, absolution and justification are effected; let him be anathema" (Canon 14).

 

[StFrancis]

Christianity is not defined by our denominations. If you claim to have been saved then you are wrong. The Bible says that we are all sinners and that is why we must ask God for forgiveness, in our daily prayers. Does the bible talk about the best denominations?