So that would be able to undo salvation?
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child baptism right or wrong ?
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Southern Baptists are not the only kind. And other churches can be Scriptural, such as many "Bible churches." A good "Brethren" church might be an option.
My cursory research of M. Servetus revealed that he rejected the Trinity. I would appreciate more resources from you to relate him to the OP concerning child baptism.
Thank you for your reply.
1 Cor. 10:12, "Wherefore, let him who thinketh he standeth, take heed lest he fall." That verse tells me that I am capable of the most heinous sins, save for the eternal one of rejecting Christ's offer of salvation. That was taken care of many years ago, and I believe the Bible when it says in John 10 that no one can take Christ's own from His hand. If I'm capable of that, then John Calvin also was equally capable. I don't see that as grounds for doubting his salvation.
From what I've read from our British members, the "Brethren" churches in England are a bit more insular than those here in the States. But, I get what you're saying about expanding beyond the American flavor of Baptists. Me I'd recommend checking out an Evangelical Christian-Baptist congregation. That is if he can find one with translators from Russian to English.
You also MUST read into the prevailing thought regarding Christianity and how heinius a crome that was viewd as being, and not take a modern day America view back to it!
Plymouth Bethren?
Do you think murderers go to heaven?
My personal belief is that baptizing a baby only produces a wet baby. Baptism is a public declaration by the baptizee that he/she has come to jesus & been saved.
I believe baptism is to be done only after salvation.
I agree with you
Yes, if their sins were washed in the blood of the Lamb of God!The ONLY sin God cannot forgive is to reject Jesus to save you!
methodist.org.uk/our-faith/life-and-faith/life-events/infant-thanksgiving/
"Some parents believe, on reflection, that a service of baptism is not the most appropriate service for them and their child. They may think it is too weighty in terms of their own faith, or that the promises involved go beyond what they can say with integrity. Some parents may be adopting a child who has already been baptized. Some may have a child who was baptized in emergency circumstances in hospital or at home. Other parents, who may themselves be committed Christians, feel strongly (because baptism is so meaningful) that they want their child to be able to ask for baptism, if and when they are ready to respond for themselves. All nevertheless want to thank God publicly now for the safe arrival of their child and express their love for that child. This can be done at a service called an 'Act of Thanksgiving after the Birth or Adoption of a Child'. If you are not sure whether Baptism or an Act of Thanksgiving would be more appropriate for you and your child, talk it through with your minister, who will be able to advise."
"Some parents believe, on reflection, that a service of baptism is not the most appropriate service for them and their child. They may think it is too weighty in terms of their own faith, or that the promises involved go beyond what they can say with integrity. Some parents may be adopting a child who has already been baptized. Some may have a child who was baptized in emergency circumstances in hospital or at home. Other parents, who may themselves be committed Christians, feel strongly (because baptism is so meaningful) that they want their child to be able to ask for baptism, if and when they are ready to respond for themselves. All nevertheless want to thank God publicly now for the safe arrival of their child and express their love for that child. This can be done at a service called an 'Act of Thanksgiving after the Birth or Adoption of a Child'. If you are not sure whether Baptism or an Act of Thanksgiving would be more appropriate for you and your child, talk it through with your minister, who will be able to advise."
I am troubled by your conclusion that infant baptism is not sin. It is not condoned in scripture. Furthermore, it could reinforce other non-scriptural practices.
Consider:
Rom 14:13 KJV - Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in [his] brother's way.
1Co 8:9 KJV - But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
My motto: Neither condemn what God condones nor condone what God condemns.
I reckon I'm the odd man out, if I am more apt to think of the Dunkard Brethern when the term brethern church comes up.
The Dunkards are a German Anabaptist group. In the British context, Brethren refers to the Plymouth Brethren
Maybe. There are several other groups.
That is not the reason Presbyterians baptize their babies. They baptize their babies because they believe it makes their children members of the New Covenant community. That is diametrically opposed to Baptist theology which teaches the only members of the New Covenant community are believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. Methodists believe infant baptism works with prevenient grace and assists the child in their ability to understand spiritual truths as the child grows and matures. The Methodist view is wrong because there is no such thing as prevenient grace. So, infant baptism is sinful because it misinterprets and misapplies scripture.