communists leading our Universities

[church mouse guy]

Originally posted by LadyEagle:
Another threat, besides communism....

Here is a group that monitors Middle Eastern Studies taught in our colleges and universities -(I believe the Middle Eastern Studies in our institutions of higher learning are the #1 recruitment grounds for terrorist cells and many, if not most, support terrorist organizations and ideology.)

http://www.campus-watch.org/surveys.php/cat/Institutions

That's why we need the Patriot Act. You were so concerned that the federal government perform roof-top rescues but you are against the Patriot Act to protect from foreign and domestic military enemies because you want the federal government to be shackled on these matters. It is contradictory.

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

Has anyone been successfully prosecuted as a result of the Patriot Act?

An honest, question, by the way.

Regards,
BiR

 

[church mouse guy]

I once read that there were 30 cases but I cannot find the article again.

 

[LadyEagle]

CMG, I am not against the Patriot Act. Never have been. I think it is a good tool, though ineffective.

I AM against looking in my purse and dumping my underwear out of my tote bag for people to root through at airports while the cargo on any given plane is not thoroughly scrutinized and scanned and while we continue to have porous borders and unchecked cargo in our ports of entry and while terrorist web sites still originate and are hosted by US hosting companies on US servers.

If you are going to criticize me, at least base it on facts. I repeat - I am NOT against the Patriot Act. If you can find a post where I ever said I was against the Patriot Act, please post it. You won't.

 

[LadyEagle]

You were so concerned that the federal government perform roof-top rescues

I was concerned that the federal govt didn't drop food and water to people in the Super Dome and Convention Center. I don't recall posting anything about rooftop rescues. You must have me confused with someone else.

Again, if you are going to criticize me, at least base it on facts of what I post.

I hope you are not getting dementia, for you seem confused. If you are, I understand. It happens to all of us over 50 at times.

 

[OldRegular]

I see little difference between activists democrats and the radical left. Really all one has to do is read the history of the growth of Socialism in this country beginning with the democrat Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt administration. Now if anyone is too inept or lazy to study the history of such growth they should not expect others to do it for them. But then that is the mind of socialism; enjoy the fruits of others labor!

 

[OldRegular]

Rave on BIR, Rave on!

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Originally posted by OldRegular:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Magnetic Poles:
Why am I not surprised that OR thinks the KKK was ever a legitimate organization rather than a terrorist group.

MP you only show your ignorance of history. You might try reading a little history about the treatment of the South after the War of Northern Agression. After WW1 Germany was treated like the South was, the result was WWII. If we had treated Japan and Germany after WWII like the South was treated after the War of Northern Agression Iraq would look like a picnic in comparison. </font>[/QUOTE]Pot, meet kettle!

You show ignorance in stating the KKK was not a terrorist group. Yes, the states of the Confederacy were treated harshly. That was never a point of this discussion. However, if you can get past YOUR ignorance of history, it wasn't a war of northern aggression. It was the southern states who seceeded, it was the southern states that started the war against the legitimate federal government. If you feel this way, why in heaven's name would you ever consider being loyal to the U.S., who defeated your precious CSA? Are you a coward who cowtows to your oppressive conquerors? Stand up and fight, boy! Fight for General Lee, Fight for the blessed South and her right to exit the federal union.

 

[OldRegular]

Magnetic Poles

I will not dignify your drivel by repeating it. I do believe though that the altitude is really getting to you.

There is nothing in the Constitution that forbade a state from seceding from the Union. [So you see it was a War of Northern Agression.]

That being said I think it well that the South lost the war for the simple reason that the South would have splintered and would not have successfully constituted a separate country.

Strangely though we have been supporting the rights of some states to secede from the former Soviet Union.

By the way are there any Communists [or Communist sympathizers] on this Forum?

 

[paidagogos]

Originally posted by OldRegular:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Magnetic Poles:
Why am I not surprised that OR thinks the KKK was ever a legitimate organization rather than a terrorist group.

MP you only show your ignorance of history. You might try reading a little history about the treatment of the South after the War of Northern Agression. After WW1 Germany was treated like the South was, the result was WWII. If we had treated Japan and Germany after WWII like the South was treated after the War of Northern Agression Iraq would look like a picnic in comparison. </font>[/QUOTE]AMEN! Tell it like it is!

 

[paidagogos]

Originally posted by Magnetic Poles:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by OldRegular:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Magnetic Poles:
Why am I not surprised that OR thinks the KKK was ever a legitimate organization rather than a terrorist group.

MP you only show your ignorance of history. You might try reading a little history about the treatment of the South after the War of Northern Agression. After WW1 Germany was treated like the South was, the result was WWII. If we had treated Japan and Germany after WWII like the South was treated after the War of Northern Agression Iraq would look like a picnic in comparison. </font>[/QUOTE]Pot, meet kettle!

You show ignorance in stating the KKK was not a terrorist group. Yes, the states of the Confederacy were treated harshly. That was never a point of this discussion. However, if you can get past YOUR ignorance of history, it wasn't a war of northern aggression. It was the southern states who seceeded, it was the southern states that started the war against the legitimate federal government. If you feel this way, why in heaven's name would you ever consider being loyal to the U.S., who defeated your precious CSA? Are you a coward who cowtows to your oppressive conquerors? Stand up and fight, boy! Fight for General Lee, Fight for the blessed South and her right to exit the federal union.

</font>[/QUOTE]Speaking of ignorance, you should consider thyself.

Try some serious reading of the primary sources written by men who were part of the events and wrote from first-hand information and experience. As a young boy growning up in the South, I read countless volumes of such works in a well stocked library of works from the post-war era. It was not the revisionist history penned by twentieth century liberal historians with an agenda. I doubt that you have ever read works by Alexander Stephens and Robert Toombs. Have you ever read Jefferson Davis's speeches and works? You just can't trust your revisionist elementary school history since Charles and Mary Beard. BTW, after the war, historians from both sides knew that the war was not fought over slavery. This was simply a perpherial issue used to villify the South when the war was going badly with the Yankees. It was Yankee propaganda in its day but it passes as history today. (Mr. Lincoln was a racist by modern definition who did not believe the Negro to be equal with Whites.)

If you were really a serious history student, then you would know that the ideals embodied in the American Revolution were the same ideals resulting in secession and are perpetrated by Southern conservatives today. It was the radical and shrewd Lincoln who violated the Constitution by overriding state legislatures and the will of the people. It was this commsumate politican who did numerous unconstitional acts to prevent the border states from seceding.

Furthermore, there are tens of thousands Southern patriots who love and defend our homeland. We don't buy your materialism and smug attitudes. We still hold to our ideals of virtue, integrity, individual liberty, self-determination in governament and righteousness over any temporal considerations of self, comfort or wealth. There are 30,000 Sons of Confederate Veterans today who are dedicated to upholding the good name of the Confederate fighting men. The League of the South with its thousands is committed to Southern ideals along with hundreds of smaller cultural groups. They have been falsely malaligned as racists but they are good men who still believe in old-fashioned principles of goodness and liberty.

These groups still have political clout in the South as demonstrated in the last SC senate campaign that sent turncoat David Beasley, the leading candidate, back home to Society Hill and send regionally popular son, Jim DeMint, to Washington, DC.

Now, go and read some serious history and perhaps we can have some real dialogue. Otherwise, you may open your mouth to change feet.

 

[church mouse guy]

Originally posted by LadyEagle:
CMG, I am not against the Patriot Act. Never have been. I think it is a good tool, though ineffective.

I AM against looking in my purse and dumping my underwear out of my tote bag for people to root through at airports while the cargo on any given plane is not thoroughly scrutinized and scanned and while we continue to have porous borders and unchecked cargo in our ports of entry and while terrorist web sites still originate and are hosted by US hosting companies on US servers.

If you are going to criticize me, at least base it on facts. I repeat - I am NOT against the Patriot Act. If you can find a post where I ever said I was against the Patriot Act, please post it. You won't.

Oh, I must have confused you with some of the others on the far-right. Sorry. It is hard to keep the players straight sometimes. If they don't start going after those who fit the profile of a terrorist, we are all going to stop flying.

I will remember that you are pro-Patriot Act.

 

[OldRegular]

paidagogos

That was a great post!

 

[freedom's cause]

if you have never heard of the Frankfurt school
you'll never forget it if you read this

http://www.newtotalitarians.com/FrankfurtSchool.html

efforts to destroy America from within

 

[LadyEagle]

paidagogos,

May the South Rise Again!

 

[church mouse guy]

With the immediate help of FEMA?

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Paidagogos, you too show your ignorance. Why not renounce your US citizenship now? Now I see why SC has the reputation it has. I would be downright ashamed to be an apologist for any government that fostered the enslavement of other human beings. The Confederacy was not a noble cause, it was an evil on the magnitude of other evils, such as Idi Amin, Joseph Stalin and the like. Your rebel forebears lost. Get over it.

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

Originally posted by OldRegular:
Rave on BIR, Rave on!

I find it amazing that you can specifically mention people in a discussion about "communists running our Universities," and yet offer no proof, justification or rationale for introducing them into the discussion.

How nice of you - perhaps someone could show the folks at South Carolina what OldRegular is writing about them on the BaptistBoard.

Nice job, OldRegular: you outdid yourself.

Regards,
BiR

 

[OldRegular]

Originally posted by LadyEagle:
paidagogos,

May the South Rise Again!

The South has risen, courtesy of air conditioning and the Republican Party.

 

[OldRegular]

Originally posted by Baptist in Richmond:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by OldRegular:
Rave on BIR, Rave on!

I find it amazing that you can specifically mention people in a discussion about "communists running our Universities," and yet offer no proof, justification or rationale for introducing them into the discussion.

How nice of you - perhaps someone could show the folks at South Carolina what OldRegular is writing about them on the BaptistBoard.


Nice job, OldRegular: you outdid yourself.

Regards,
BiR </font>[/QUOTE]Perhaps it is because your eyesight is too poor to read more than one sentence at a time, perhaps it is because you are too simple minded to understand the rules of composition, or perhaps it is because your Eastern Virginia ego is just too big to assimilate what you read, particularly since I have not said anything about the people of South Carolina. So again I say rave on, rave on, and on, and on BIR.