I didn’t give “my position” but gave you the context of the use of “in Him.”
Would you care to share your thinking on how this verse should be considered any differently then what is presented by my post?
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Corporate Election
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Would you care to share your thinking on how this verse should be considered any differently then what is presented by my post?
Reformed1689
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Yes we definitely disagree there.
I'd like very much to see your proof you are in fact elect.. It seems you make this claim in ignorance. By the way it is you who are in error because yu can't prove you are elect You have no such proof and never will. Want to know why? Because you have no scripture that says any Gentile is elect.
MB
Prove it? A disagreement doesn't mean squat with out reason. No where in scripture is unconditional election ever described there fore it's not truee.
MB
Reformed1689
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Chosen would refer to us be elected in Him!
Yes it does say "In Him" [snip]
MB
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Reformed1689
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No you just tried to claim we aren't in Him or don't have to be in Himwhen we are chosen for Salvation.Like I said you have a reading problem
MB
Yet another claim of mind reading being used to contradict Paul's written words...
Yet another false claim, as I have explained this fact multiple times. Ask yourselves, why can't the Calvinism defenders even quote my explanation? Why instead to they post obvious falsehood? Go figure...
Not that I claim to be a Calvinist, but have I not quoted you accurately and shown how your scheme violates the Scriptures, yet you persist in error?
I’m asking so that you don’t think you are without someone bringing you the truth of the Scriptures.
But then I’m not the only one, am I?
Others also have engaged your error, multiple times.
Yet, you seem to have again schemed to paint others as incapable and unresponsive.
Why, Van?
I don’t follow all of your exchanges with others and was gone from the board for over a month or two, so perhaps I am unaware of someone’s lack of response.
Calvinists simply post denial, followed by false claims.
Ephesians 1:4 refers to a corporate election not an individual election. Why? Because 1 Peter 2:9-10 says those saved existed as not a people. Therefore they could not have been chosen individually before creation, because if they had been, then they would have never existed as not a people.
The only response will be "taint so" and so forth.
Well, you really didn’t address my post did you?
Did you not claim no one ever presented and confronted your error with the truth of Scriptures?
By ignoring a response to such a claim, you are now guilty of self incrimination.
Others and myself have dealt with you multiple times concerning your view of both 1 Peter and Ephesians.
You remain entrenched in error,
Yet another you, you, you post addressing a poster and running from the topic. This, folks, is all they have.
Calvinists simply post denial, followed by false claims.
Ephesians 1:4 refers to a corporate election not an individual election. Why? Because 1 Peter 2:9-10 says those saved existed as not a people. Therefore they could not have been chosen individually before creation, because if they had been, then they would have never existed as not a people.
Reformed1689
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Reformed1689
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Calvinists simply false charges, followed by false claims.
Ephesians 1:4 refers to a corporate election not an individual election. Why? Because 1 Peter 2:9-10 says those saved existed as not a people. Therefore they could not have been chosen individually before creation, because if they had been, then they would have never existed as not a people.