Depression

Sister Helen,

Read your post above--

As Mister Spock (aka Leonard Nimoy) would tell Captain Kirk--

"Facinating!!"

Your buddy,
Blackbird

 

I feel saddened and depressed, after having read these pages? I wonder what that means.Words like the opposition ,us and them,I wonder what may have happened if we were all in the same room together.Do you think Our Lord would find joy in reading these posts? doubt it.I am sure our Lord loves us all.May I suggest that we all pray for each other. Why!,because we are going to need it.
John

 

Amen and Amen, Abiyah.......and again I say Amen.

Cheers,

Jim

 

My one and only reply, and this is to Lorelei. You said that depression isn't an illness, that it's not a physical ailment so it shouldn't be physically treated.
The brain is very much a physical part of your body, and is subject to not functioning properly just as the rest of your body parts are. I would suggest you get into some medical studies and see what parts of the brain effect which part of your body and emotions, which chemicals affect your body and emotions by their effects on the brain, what putting physical pressure on some parts of the brain will cause the body and emotions to react.
I think everyone in this thread is wrong and the answer is this. (that was said with a grin)
There are both spiritual AND physical elements to depression, sometimes it IS the spiritual that causes physical depression, sometimes the opposite. Either way it needs to be treated spiritually, but if it turns out it is a physical cause then God has also provided doctors and their knowledge of medicines.
Gina

 

I hope this thread closes soon. It's really getting me depressed.

 

I sort of thought that's what I was saying, too...

 

Helen & Gina, Doubting Thomas (an M.D.) and I wrote similar posts back on page 4 & page 6, complete with medical links.

Our posts were ignored in the heat of the battle....as you can see.

 

I'm still tellin' you guys that there is a big difference between clinical depression that folks get because of some imbalance of chemicals or hormones or whatever--that that depression that some pastors get for dealing with the troubles of folks---Moses dealt with people and with judgment and the world was pressing on his shoulders to where he wanted to die!!! Then the Lord says--"I'm gonna kill 'um!"--and Moses loved those folks so much that his prayer was--"Lord! Not them! Me!! Me!! Blot me out . . .!"

The thread may close but pastors and their depressions and despair over their flock will continue on and on and on and on--my battle isn't with Gina, SheEagle, Helen, Katie nor anyone--its against myself--I have to overcome and conquer--maneuver and fire! Maneuver and fire! Always advanceing--

Lets not close--keep it open so somebody can help me!! I can't do it by myself!

Blackbird

 

Ok, I lied, I'm posting again.
But just to say that those of us who posted similar posts (Helen, She-Eagle, Me, whoever else said the same thing and it was ignored) let's boycott this thread until people look up the information on the physical elements of depression and mental disorders. (ie how the brain is a part of the human body and how it effects us if it is injured etc.)
Gina

 

The secular world is depressed and they are looking to the doctors and pill bottles and still they are not fixed, When they come in the church door, do they hear empty words about a Jesus who wants you to keep being dependant on man, or one who demonstrated the perfect life by living in dependancy upon His Father? Our Father, who art in Heaven is THE answer and I am sure glad the church I went to tonight shared that Loving God with us! The one that promised us that we could do ALL things through Christ who strengthens us! AMEN!

You know something that is ironic? We have to live in the secular world! Frankly I HATE this world and it's ways and it makes me sick and depressed.
You know God made us all different, HE knows what and how much we can take, Physically, Emotionally, and Spiritually. HE made us all different for reasons we may never know. For example, when the WTC was attacked I lost it, I fell on my knees and begged GOD to have mercy on every soul lost, a friend of mine freaked out so bad she had to be physically calmed down. It stayed with me a lot longer then her and it had me in battle with Satan in my prayer life. So I thought, but it was a huge growing experience in knowing that my soul was crying out in such torment that all I could do was moan deep in my soul. My friend on the other hand was able to voice this and helped me to eventually voice it. Why did I get depressed about it and she did not? I really don't know. For some reason that is how I handled it. My trust & faith in my Father did NOT waiver in this time, yet the happenings in this secular world got to me.
See I don't want to be here, not for any reason but to please and work for my Father's Kingdom. That is what we are all here for. We all make a difference in so many ways. GOD does not make me nor let me get depressed. I have enormous faith in Him and the Church but MEDICALLY I am Depressed! I guess if you have not been there and your mind is closed on the issue there is not much I can say, but know one thing, I CAN do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me. Maybe God is not ready for me to take a new step yet but in time HE will and maybe I will not need my Effexor, and Paxcil anymore. HEY I CAN"T wait. But in the meantime in order for me to function I need them. I pray for the day I won't. BELIEVE ME!
Love in Christ Angie

 

bbbbbbut, blackbird, we're on the same side! And look at the shortest verse in the Bible:

John.11 [35] Jesus wept.

Keep on keeping on, cousin.

 

Oh, and I sent you a private message Blackbird. I apologize for not asking you first, I wasn't thinking!
Gina

 

You don't have to apologize, Sister Gina--its ok with me--you have been an encouragement to my ministry--(believe it or not!!) as well as a host of others on the board--I am so pressed every day--bombarded with difficulites and grief--many, many of my folks are in serious, serious trouble--I come to the board for relaxation and to release frustrations--and you guys have encouraged me--and I will never ever get to meet you guys this side of GloryLand--

God bless your heart, Gina--keep being silly! Keep standing up against abortion--I know where you stand!

SheEagle--keep being my cousin!

Your buddy,
Blackbird

 

Father God: please look in on Brother Blackbird
and see what a good ministry he is doing for you.
You have already given him the preperation for
these duties. Now grant him the wisdom to apply
these preperations in the most beneficial
and meaningful manner. May all of God's best
blessings fall upon Brother Blackbird, his family,
and his ministry. May all this be done so that
we might give all the more honor and glory
unto our blessed Lord and Savior: Messiah Jesus. Amen!

 

Brother Ed-fier!

You are a blessing today! An encourager in the face of the Lord Jesus Christ! Its a lift to me spiritually to know I have brothers and sisters even on the board who will give to pray for this preacher!

I'll see you on the BB!!

Your Southern Baptist preachin' buddy,
Blackbird

 

For those that might be interested:Time Magazine Article: Young and Bipolar

 

Message on Depression
Someone on another board mentioned this, I liked it. Check it out!
Gina

 

I'm tired of People that Just don't understand DEPRESSION! The thing is they don't even want to take the time to try to understand. Yes,I'm a Born Again Christian and Jesus is my Number 1, I've confessed I'm a Sinner and because of SIN He died for our sins and I've accepted him as my LORD and SAVIOUR. Althou I still suffer from Depression. A lot of churches don't understand. I do know that the church I'm in doesn't, but we haven't found anything better. Our Pastor preaches against medicines and adoption in which I dont agree. Im sorry, but Ive tried 3x to committ suicide before and if I don't take my meds then it creeps up. Just because your on antidepressants doesn't mean your not saved like others may say. There has been times our Pastor has spoken about meds and depression in his sermon saying that it's not a chemical imbalance.I felt like running out of there because that had upset me. HE DOESNT KNOW HOW MY BODY IS AND MY MEDICAL CONDITIONS. And Yes, I'm A Diabetic also. There were times if I didn't take my meds I would actually throw up at gas station, friends house, mall, anywhere. So People before You say anything try Learning about it first. My JESUS Understands!

 

Somebody have mercy and put this thread out of its misery!