Featured Did Christ Atone for ALL humans?

Here is the question that one must answer through Scripture.
Did Christ die for all?
Indeed He did.
What does the Scripture say? (and so clearly!)

2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

These were false teachers that Peter said brought upon themselves swift destruction. They were obviously not saved. Now look what doctrine they denied.
They denied that the Lord bought them, that is the Christ paid the price of salvation even for those that are condemned. This cannot go unnoticed. Christ did not die just for the elect. He died for all. His blood was shed for all--both elect and damned. This verse teaches it very clearly.

 

What trap??? When the HS desires to enlighten them then it will happen.... its child's play for Him, us not so much.

and as I told you, I confront a pastor who is the leader of a Baptist church & will continue to....but don't go down that road of dictating to these folks because they are by & large, Saved People. Then you will get a bad reputation as a .....ah....be still & gird your loins...... a "CALVINIST" :laugh:

 

"Biblical wisdom" "spiritual developement" ?????

The man didn't even understand the milk of the Word, the love of Christ, just as is witnessed daily by many Calvinist on this board.

 

Bingo! They have to hide their views on this when they evangelize. :thumbs:

 

Once again thank you for bringing sound reasoning backed with scripture. It is refreshing after all the John Calvin contamination of scripture we continue to see. :thumbs:

 

You are entirely uninformed. You need to dip into his works instead of speaking out of ignorance.

 

Wouldn't say entirely. Just read some of the unchristlike comments by John's followers.

 

Once the truth of that Scripture leapt out at me, I wondered how can anyone believe in the error of a Limited Atonement. Impossible.
Christ died for the sins of all men. No one can circumvent that verse (2Pet.2:1) without serious scripture denial.

 

Then, what indeed of Calvin's material have you read?

What are you talking about? John's followers? What John? The author of the 4th gospel,three epistles, and Revelation, or someone else?

 

CertaInly not the apostle John. John Calvin of course

 

Just two examples of men who certainly did not believe or teach that Jesus died for each and every person who ever lived --George Whitefield and Charles H. Spurgeon. They certainly were evangelistic --it can't be denied. Yet they did not hold to your notion that Christ died for all. They did not hide the fact. Neither does anyone else who preaches the death of Christ for His own.

 

I honestly had no idea what you were talking about. We don't follow John Calvin --but Christ. But it is foolish to dismiss the works of spiritual giants such as John Calvin if you sincerely want to grow in the wisdom and knowledge of the Word of God.

 

I do not consider men who desired/desire the death of another brother in Christ as spiritual Giants. Doesn't matter if they are Calvinist or not. You will know them by their fruits. One can be full of bible and void of Jesus Christ.

 

And other Calvinists tell me that "Calvinism" is rooted in the scriptures and not in the man.
I will be sure to remind them that you differ on that point. It is difficult to prove TULIP from the Scriptures without Calvin isn't it?

 

They are only men Rippon. I esteem many on your list and I am even use CHS to teach my wife but...they are all just men. My reliance is in the Word.

 

Why do you object to my sentence :"We don't follow John Calvin --but Christ."

 

Have you ever readCalvins Institutes? Sorry this was supposed to be directed to Steaver.

 

There is no contradiction. God has raised up men throughout the centuries to better understand the Word of God. To ignore their works is foolish.

 

If you would like to start a thread on the subject of that text then do so. This thread is a bit unwieldly as it is. And shortly, I suspect, will be closed down.

The Scriptures are clear that Christ did indeed die for His elect, His beloved, His Church, His sheep. There are all sorts of designations for the same select individuals that he specifically laid down His life for.