See post #63, this thread!!!!
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No, Israel is the descendants of the sons of Jacob, as Scripture says !
1689Dave
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“Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. ” Romans 9:6–8 (KJV 1900)
1689Dave
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The Pharisees created the millennium. Jesus refuted it.
And Jacob was Sara's grandson thru Isaac, & by God's will, the "father" of the nation Israel.
Wrong again, as usual. You can't show us that in SCRIPTURE!
1689Dave
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“ For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.” Romans 2:27–29 (KJV 1900)
Alan Gross
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No reason to make stuff up.
The Bible can be interpreted.
That generation He Spoke to saw the Abomination of Desolation He was Talking to them about.
Nothing to do with End Times, there.
Alan Gross
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I have never had a Bible reader explain why the letters 'mill' would ever be a part of a Bible Discussion.
From what I have seen, the use of any word using 'mill' is the sure sign of a novice on The End Times.
Dave repeated your word with talking about Jesus, but it is sort of like saying, "Ah-Satan was Ah- mill".
There is no 'mill', or 'the mill', or 'backward front ways mill', or anything faintly suggested by God.
Using that means everything after it is a bunch of imagination, too.
Give it up.
There is no reason for anyone to talk that is just inventing fantasies.
If you don't know squat and don't want to know, then don't bother with cartoons about lies.
Wow. You are the one doing that. On earlier threads I had repeatedly posted "soon" and "this generation" and "some standing here" verses and you just blinked them away. And here you are inventing a conceit in order to hold on to your misconceived belief. Jesus is not a King-elect. Neither are we citizens-elect. Shame on you.
No, they DIDN'T.
The antichrist did NOT come then, and only he can commit the AOD, as Scripture says. So, you can drop that silliness right now.
Anything you or anyone else posts to that effect is cancelled by the cold, stark FACT that the prophesied events have NOT occurred yet. So, you can keep on re-posting that bunk til you wear your keyboard out, but it won't change one blip of REALITY.
Rev. 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison
Now, are a thousand years & a millenium the same thing, or not ? ? ? ?
Once again, Scripture proves you wrong.
God repeatedly said He will restore both Israel & Judah & make them one nation again. So, there must be both Jews & other Israelis to be restored, right ?
1689Dave
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Jesus IS Israel and Judah. Along with those who believe in him.
“When Israel was a child, then I loved him, And called my son out of Egypt.” (Hosea 11:1)
“And [Jesus] was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.” (Matthew 2:15)
“And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.” Revelation 5:5 (KJV 1900)
Israel is Israel. Good grief
1689Dave
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The broken off unbelievers are not Israel. If they are, to whom are they reattached if any have faith in Christ?
The "tree" is God's true Church. He had chosen Judah to provide the rulers over all Israel, & narrowed it down to David's descendants, first thru Solomon. David was descended from Judah, not Benjamin or Levi, & Jesus' human ancestry was thru David, as God promised David. And Jesus had been sent TO THE JEWS FIRST, then to the rest of Israel & the world.
The Jews were God's first parts of His "tree", but by their rejection of Jesus, they'd cut themselves off that tree. But they can be readily grafted back onto that tree by believing in Jesus as Messiah & Savior for their sins.
Now, the Jews' ancient genealogies may be lost, but NOT TO GOD, & their HISTORY proves they ARE the Jews.
VERY true. For a Baptist, 1689 Dave sure has some weird beliefs !
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