Difficult Bible Questions

[1689Dave]

Circumcision makes one a Jew outwardly, in the physical sense.

But the Jews still enjoy certain promises made to them by God...
If they believe on Christ, whether individually or as a nation, they will be grafted back into their own olive tree ( Romans 11:23-24 ).

Also, did you miss this in your reading?

" I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
2 that I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4 who are Israelites; to whom [pertaineth] the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service [of God], and the promises;
5 whose [are] the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ [came], who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen." ( Romans 9:1-5 ).

Salvation is "of"( originating with, by or from ) the Jews.
The Gospel was preached to them first, and then to the Gentiles.
There was a reason for that.

The nation still has a claim to the promises, because they are His people first.
If they as a nation believe on Him, which will happen when He comes again ( Zechariah 12:10, John 19:37, Revelation 1:7, ).


Again, beloved of God for the sake of the fathers ( Romans 11:28 ).

They are no longer biblical "Jews" but gentiles since Christ abolished circumcision. All of the promises (they forfeited) are yes in Christ (if he turns them into believers).

 

[1689Dave]

@1689Dave :

That's why every nation that messes with God's chosen nation, even today, inevitably gets punished by God for it.
Even though the Lord sent a sword after them, afflicted them with famine and pestilence and so forth for not obeying Him, at the end of it all, they are still His covenant people, temporally ( on this earth ), and the promises are still in effect.

Just because the Lord Jesus fulfilled all those promises and then instituted a new covenant of grace through faith in His blood, does not mean He is done with Israel as am earthly nation.
He has not replaced them on this earth with the Church.
The prophecies regarding nations who afflict Israel are a double prophesy in many cases...

They concern both "spiritual Israel" as well as "physical Israel".
It is a serious thing for anyone to touch God's anointed, and He will recompense those who touch them, whether they are "Israel" or Israel does not matter.

But with regard to Israel as a nation, He has set them aside in the matter of salvation until He is done with the Gentiles.
They will be restored to Him one day, and He shall bring them into their own land again and shall rule over them as their Shepherd ( Ezekiel 37 )..


This is why I do not believe in a-millenialism, why I'm not a Preterist, and why I am pre-millenial and post-Tribulational...
Because of all the prophecies found in Jeremiah, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel and Zechariah, to name a few.
I take them literally, not figuratively, the same as the prophecies concerning Christ's firsr coming, the ones concerning His second coming will also be literally fulfilled.

What the Pharisees missed was the time gap between the two comings of Christ.
But it seems that we don't see eye to eye on this, so I suppose we will have to agree to disagree.

This is my final reply to you on this subject here in this thread.


Good afternoon to you sir.

Paul says they are under wrath until the end of the world. If you help them, are you helping Satan? And suffer along with them in God's wrath?

 

[1689Dave]

Paul says they are under wrath until the end of the world. If you help them, are you helping Satan? And suffer along with them in God's wrath?

“forbidding us to speak to the nations that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always, but the anger did come upon them—to the end!” 1 Thessalonians 2:16 (YLT)

 

[Sai]

Why did Paul not circumcise Titus and then circumcise Timothy?

The book of Galatians was written at a time when Paul was being gaslighted by unsaved judaizers who since the new faith was a sect of Judaism, wanted to take the group under its control. By forcing followers of Yeshua to become circumcised that would have brought the believers under the control of the Sanhedrin because they would have insisted Torah observance.

In Acts 15 Paul takes Titus to Jerusalem as a test case to see if perhaps he was teaching an error. Upon leaving the elders in Jerusalem Paul is told that his gospel was identical to theirs and that circumcision was not mandatory in order to follow Christ. Therefore he leaves Titus a gentile, uncircumcised. Timothy was half Jewish and chose to identify with his Jewish side thus Paul circumcised Timothy but not Titus?

 

[Sai]

The book of Galatians was written at a time when Paul was being gaslighted by unsaved judaizers who since the new faith was a sect of Judaism, wanted to take the group under its control. By forcing followers of Yeshua to become circumcised that would have brought the believers under the control of the Sanhedrin because they would have insisted Torah observance.

In Acts 15 Paul takes Titus to Jerusalem as a test case to see if perhaps he was teaching an error. Upon leaving the elders in Jerusalem Paul is told that his gospel was identical to theirs and that circumcision was not mandatory in order to follow Christ. Therefore he leaves Titus a gentile, uncircumcised. Timothy was half Jewish and chose to identify with his Jewish side thus Paul circumcised Timothy but not Titus?

The reason for this is simple; The Abrahamic Covenant was still in effect for the Jews even if they became church members. The token of the Abrahamic Covenant is circumcision. Although the Mosaic Covenant required circumcision, the token of the law was the sabbath not circumcision. Timothy a Jewish believer was circumcised in obedience to the command of the Abrahamic Covenant.

 

[Derf B]

Different timing aspect, as he did hang himself, but then rope broke, he fell and busted apart on the ground!

The other part of this is that one witness might have seen the body with guts asunder, while the other noticed the rope and the branch with the rope remnant on it.

 

[Derf B]

Who was Melchizedek?

His name is similar to another king of Salem (or Jerusalem) when the Israelites came up from Egypt to take Canaan. "Adonizedek", which means "the Lord is Righteous", or something like that.

Remember that God gave the Canaanites 400 years to repent, and they instead went the other way. If Adonizedek was either descended from Melchizedek, or his line became kings after, his response to the incoming Israelites was not near the same as Melchizedek's response to Abraham.

 

[Alofa Atu]

Where are the difficult Bible questions? What was the purpose of this thread? Merely to pose doubt about God's perfectly inspired and preserved words? Does the author of the OP actually think there are real contradictions in the Bible (KJB)?

 

[Sai]

Where are the difficult Bible questions? What was the purpose of this thread? Merely to pose doubt about God's perfectly inspired and preserved words? Does the author of the OP actually think there are real contradictions in the Bible (KJB)?

You have to be saved first

 

[Sai]

Is there a Hebrew word for sex?

 

[Alofa Atu]

You have to be saved first

I assume by "you" 'you' meant me, and thus, I conclude that 'you' think I am not "saved"? If so, what evidence led 'you' to this 'conclusion'?

 

[Alofa Atu]

Is there a Hebrew word for sex?

Depends on what you mean by the word "sex".

Do you mean the English word and definition of gender, of male to female?

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.​

Do you mean the Latin word for the number 6:

Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Gen 1:31 viditque Deus cuncta quae fecit et erant valde bona et factum est vespere et mane dies sextus​

Do you mean the word for martial, and extra-marital (outside of marriage) relations between persons?

Gen_4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.​

 

[Sai]

I assume by "you" 'you' meant me, and thus, I conclude that 'you' think I am not "saved"? If so, what evidence led 'you' to this 'conclusion'?

If you died today and God asked you why you should go to heaven what would you say?

 

[Sai]

Depends on what you mean by the word "sex".

Do you mean the English word and definition of gender, of male to female?

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.​

Do you mean the Latin word for the number 6:

Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Gen 1:31 viditque Deus cuncta quae fecit et erant valde bona et factum est vespere et mane dies sextus​

Do you mean the word for martial, and extra-marital (outside of marriage) relations between persons?

Gen_4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.​

The answer is no


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[Alofa Atu]

If you died today and God asked you why you should go to heaven what would you say?

I didn't die today, and I don't play silly "what if" games, and secondly, people when they die don't go straight to Heaven, they return to dust and await their respective resurrection. God promised in His word, and I "Amen" His word.

 

[Alofa Atu]

The answer is no

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I think you are grossly (that is to say dismally and woefully) ignorant of scripture (KJB).

 

[Yeshua1]

I didn't die today, and I don't play silly "what if" games, and secondly, people when they die don't go straight to Heaven, they return to dust and await their respective resurrection. God promised in His word, and I "Amen" His word.

The saved depart from their bodies to go either to heaven with Jesus, while the lost go to Hades awaiting final judgement!

 

[Sai]

I didn't die today, and I don't play silly "what if" games, and secondly, people when they die don't go straight to Heaven, they return to dust and await their respective resurrection. God promised in His word, and I "Amen" His word.

I understand that the Samoan psych is to reverence their elders especially parents and religious leaders. Sadly you have been indoctrinated by the Seventh Day Advent Church who at one time taught that not going to church on Saturday would lose one’s salvation. That is why it is viewed as a cult because no where in scripture does it teach this, it was an invention of the SDA.

This simple question would’ve answered your question of if I were speaking about your salvation, I was. Unless you can prove to me that you are saved I have to reject you as a co-believer.

The sad reality is that many parents die unsaved. As much as we loved them we must put God above them.

 

[Sai]

I think you are grossly (that is to say dismally and woefully) ignorant of scripture (KJB).

The word for sex in Hebrew is ahavah which is the Hebrew word for love. There are words for fornicatin and adultery but there is no Hebrew word for sex because it is viewed as the love action between the husband and wife (or wives) being understood as “knowing” each other.

 

[Sai]

Any last final questions?