Divorce, Remarriage and Preaching Part II

[canadyjd]

Triple post

 

[SavedByGrace]

I would also think it would need to look at why the divorce took place. The Bible allows for divorce in certain circumstances.

only sexual immorality

 

[George Antonios]

As with everything else, it depends on the dispensational setting (2Ti.2:15).
Depending on the dispensations, there are overall 3 acceptable reasons for remarriage:
1) Death 2) Defilement 3) Desertion


Never forget that our God himself is a divorced man who married another since he divorced Israel and married the church:
Jer 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
But there are always Pharisees who are more royal than the king and more spiritual than God.

 

[1689Dave]

The NT does not provide for divorce or remarriage. It was permitted under certain conditions in the OT. All divorce and remarriage no matter the reason is adultery.

 

[George Antonios]

The NT does not provide for divorce or remarriage. It was permitted under certain conditions in the OT. All divorce and remarriage no matter the reason is adultery.

Glad to see you're suddenly a dispensationalist after all.

 

[George Antonios]

A church I was once part of had a man request an ordination to pastoral ministry. He had been divorced prior to salvation. Both he and his wife had remarried.

We studied the issue as a fellowship for couple of months. There were basically two camps.

The first camp believed since the divorce was prior to salvation, it was forgiven by God. No man can be disqualified based on sin committed prior to salvation.

The second camp believed the issue wasn’t about whether the sin was forgiven, or if it was prior to salvation, or whether the divorce was biblical. The issue is God’s requirements for leadership in His churches.

Since the marriage relationship in some way represents the relationship between Christ and His church (the Bride of Christ) a pastor cannot be divorced because Christ would never divorce His bride. God doesn’t want that image in the leadership of His churches.

peace to you

God himself is a divorced man who married another since he divorced Israel and married the church:
Jer 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
But there are always Pharisees who are more royal than the king and more spiritual than God.

 

[atpollard]

God himself is a divorced man who married another since he divorced Israel and married the church:

Strange that Hosea was more faithful to his marriage vow than God ... unless you might have misunderstood something.

 

[George Antonios]

Strange that Hosea was more faithful to his marriage vow than God ... unless you might have misunderstood something.

I understand that God doesn't need my help to prop up his righteousness.
Uzzah learned that the hard way.

 

[George Antonios]

Absoutely - remember the old Baptist joke - if a preacher wants to get rid of his wife - he should have her "eliminated"
as a church will forgive you for murder -
But NEVER would forgive a preacher for a divorce.

Bob Jones Sr. used to say: "I never felt like divorcing my wife, but I've sometimes felt like choking her to death".

 

[George Antonios]

The divorce issue is to Baptists what the sabbath issue was to the Pharisees.

(And no, I am not divorced but happily married by the grace of God; and I am full-on Baptist).

 

[Reformed1689]

The NT does not provide for divorce or remarriage. It was permitted under certain conditions in the OT. All divorce and remarriage no matter the reason is adultery.

That's simply not true Dave. Jesus allowed for divorce in the circumstance of immorality.

 

[Salty]

http://separationtruth.com/resources/MARRIAGE+AND+DIVORCE+with+chart.pdf

 

[1689Dave]

Glad to see you're suddenly a dispensationalist after all.

I'm Baptist modified Amillennial. But the NT replaced the OT. And the NT makes no provision for divorce and especially for divorce and remarriage. It happens but it isn't for believers. Separation? Yes, but reconciliation is the only recourse.

 

[1689Dave]

That's simply not true Dave. Jesus allowed for divorce in the circumstance of immorality.

That was OT. We are in the NT. Plus you have Matthew 19:9 wrong on top of it.

 

[Reformed1689]

That was OT. We are in the NT. Plus you have Matthew 19:9 wrong on top of it.

You realize not everything in the OT just goes away right?

 

[Reformed1689]

I'm Baptist modified Amillennial. But the NT replaced the OT. And the NT makes no provision for divorce and especially for divorce and remarriage. It happens but it isn't for believers. Separation? Yes, but reconciliation is the only recourse.

Ok, you have made the claim, now support it with Scripture.

 

[1689Dave]

Ok, you have made the claim, now support it with Scripture.

Do you believe the Old Covenant gave way to the New Covenant according to Jeremiah? IZf so, Matthew 19:9 is not for today. Where do you find divorce as an option for a believer in the NT?

 

[1689Dave]

You realize not everything in the OT just goes away right?

Where does it say that?

 

[Reformed1689]

Do you believe the Old Covenant gave way to the New Covenant according to Jeremiah? IZf so, Matthew 19:9 is not for today. Where do you find divorce as an option for a believer in the NT?

What are you referring to specifically? And Matthew 19:19 is part of the NT Dave....

 

[1689Dave]

What are you referring to specifically? And Matthew 19:19 is part of the NT Dave....

Christ was fulfilling the Law which he abolished on the cross. You fall from grace if you go by it instead of the New Covenant.