SavedByGrace
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This is not divorce
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Divorce, Remarriage and Preaching Part II
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This is not divorce
SavedByGrace
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everything on divorce must be measured against what Jesus Christ says in Matthew 19:9, " And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”
This is the ONLY reason for any Christian to get a divorce. Agree?
Think that Paul was addressing what if a saved and unsaved are married?
SavedByGrace
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what Paul is clearly saying, is that if the unbeliever wished to "depart", they could. This cannot be taken as the same as "divorce", which requires a legal annulment of the marriage. Simply walking away from a marriage does not equate to "divorce".
he also stated that the injured party is now 'freed"!
SavedByGrace
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I am surprised that you are arguing here for something that you really don't even believe
canadyjd
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Paul stated the believer is not “bound” should they be abandoned by the unbeliever (presumably because of their conversion).
This is a technical term used in religious circles meaning they were not bound by the marriage. He uses the same language in Romans concerning binding/loosing of marriage at/until death.
It does mean they can divorce and remarry, though Paul preferred they remain unmarried or reconciled.
Each be convinced in their own mind. Good news is, if we are wrong in either direction, God will forgive us.
peace to you
SavedByGrace
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so Jesus in Matthew 19:9 gets it wrong? "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”
canadyjd
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There are some situations that are not directly addressed by Jesus. One of those is abandonment of Christians by an unbelieving spouse.
The Apostle Paul, with authority from God to do so, gave instructions concerning this issue.
Edit to add:
In Paul’s instructions, married believers are not to divorce but separate and remain chaste. They may reconcile, but they shouldn’t divorce and cannot remarry.
With Jesus’s instructions on divorce in Matthew the focus is on whether the non-offending spouse commits adultery if remarried. Should a spouse commit sexual immorality, they are put to death under Jewish law. Since they are dead, the non-offending spouse is free to remarry.
peace to you
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SavedByGrace
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Paul is not sanctioning divorce. Desertion is not the same
canadyjd
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You are wrong. The language of binding and loosing is directly related to being bound to the marriage as a matter of law and Paul says they are not bound.
He prefer they reconcile or remain unmarried, but he allows divorce and remarriage in that circumstance.
peace to you
SavedByGrace
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So Paul is contradicting Jesus Who is God? Yeah right!
atpollard
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Paul and Jesus both addressed marriage between believers the same way (stay married or live apart still married, but no divorce).
Jesus did not address a marriage between a believer and an unbeliever where the unbeliever abandons the marriage, but Paul did ... so Paul never contradicts Jesus. Paul gives instruction on an issue that Jesus did not give specific instruction.
SavedByGrace
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It seems very clear to me, that what Paul is talking about in 1 Corinthians 7, is the separation of couples, and not their divorce
1Co 7:10 But unto the married I give charge, [yea] not I, but the Lord, That the wife depart (χωρίζω, separate) not from her husband
1Co 7:11 (but should she depart, let her remain unmarried, or else be reconciled to her husband); and that the husband leave not (ἀφίημι, divorce) his wife.
1Co 7:12 But to the rest say I, not the Lord: If any brother hath an unbelieving wife, and she is content to dwell with him, let him not leave (ἀφίημι, divorce) her.
1Co 7:13 And the woman that hath an unbelieving husband, and he is content to dwell with her, let her not leave her (ἀφίημι, divorce) husband.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified in the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified in the brother: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
1Co 7:15 Yet if the unbelieving departeth (χωρίζω, separate), let him depart (χωρίζω, separate): the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such [cases]: but God hath called us in peace.
In Matthew 19, Jesus was responding to a question from The Pharisees, "Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife (ἀπολύω, divorce, as they are married) for any cause?" To which Jesus responds, " He saith unto them, Moses for your hardness of heart suffered you to put away (ἀπολύω) your wives: but from the beginning it hath not been so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away (ἀπολύω) his wife, except for sexual immorality, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and he that marrieth her when she is put away committeth adultery. " (8-9). Jesus is not addressing "separation" or "desertion", of married couples, but strictly divorce.
canadyjd
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SavedByGrace
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canadyjd
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SavedByGrace
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canadyjd
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You mean you were being sarcastic?? What!!!!the rolling eyes say otherwise!
It never occurred to me that you would be sarcastic toward me.
No, that just can’t be true! Say it isn’t so!!!!!!
peace to you