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But if you are righteous God won't punish you for your father's sin
Ezk 18:17
Who has withdrawn his hand from the poor
And not received usury or increase,
But has executed My judgments
And walked in My statutes—
He shall not die for the iniquity of his father;
He shall surely live!

But I think we are missing the point that, whether baby in the womb or 90 year old sinner, being a descendant the first Adam doesn't get you into Heaven so you need to be adopted into the second Adam. To me the question is can God give a person grace, faith and the Holy Spirit and adopt a baby after they die? Some people say that original sin makes us unacceptable which I agree with but why does death stop God from witnessing to a baby?

1 Peter 3:19 by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.

If God preached to these souls for judgment why couldn't He preach to a martyred child for salvation ?

 

But where is the indication that the 12 year old WASN'T A BELIEVER?

 

No, I don't agree with your understanding of it. There are MANY Calvinists that believe it is simultaneous.

 

Are you saying a 4 year old can't be a believer? I think you are reading something into Christ's words that are not there. By the way, yes, four year olds can be believers. I've seen it. I was saved at 5.

 

^Proof reformed Ordo Salutis is false

 

I believe the atonement has that covered for the little babies.

 

I heard God was a Good guy.

Not a evil melomaniac who takes pleasure and glory at the rape of children but sends babies to hell for his sadistic "glory", not that any of you "courageous" souls would pushover to a evil "god" that way.

 

I voted no and I am reminded that is Gods business and none of mine... Brother Glen

 

Ok misunderstood you then.

 

3. Elect infants dying in infancy are regenerated and saved by Christ through the Spirit; who worketh when, and where, and how he pleases; so also are all elect persons, who are incapable of being outwardly called by the ministry of the Word. ( John 3:3, 5, 6; John 3:8 )