Do we truly love the brethren?

[convicted1]

But yet doctrine binds & defines & comforts.....it is our belief that it is taken directly from scripture & without it there is no church. your always welcome to visit with us but if the HS has not influenced you doctrinally....again which comes through His scripture, you would not be welcome to join. This may appear unloving but I will assure you it is very loving because you are now following scripture & you are now in accord with your brethren. This is why I say (and I think Bob agrees) it is difficult for both of us to fellowship with people who do not believe in DoG.....there is too much of a casem dividing us.

Well, Brother, I understand where you are coming from, and I don't entirely disagree with you. That being said, I find it hard to believe that there is one church is the country of ours, where the members agree completely on 100% of the bible. There is a member or two in our church who believe that someone can backslide, and there is not one of the 13-15 ORBs associations that state this in their Articles of Faith. The ORBs as a whole(all assocs. I mean) preach against a "fall from grace". Now, though I disagree with them immensely, I feel that there are many more things we hold in common, according to His Word, that we would fall out over this. But, each church and/or asoc. has every right to do what they feel is correct according to the scriptures.

Love ya Brother!! :thumbs:

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Well, Brother, I understand where you are coming from, and I don't entirely disagree with you. That being said, I find it hard to believe that there is one church is the country of ours, where the members agree completely on 100% of the bible. There is a member or two in our church who believe that someone can backslide, and there is not one of the 13-15 ORBs associations that state this in their Articles of Faith. The ORBs as a whole(all assocs. I mean) preach against a "fall from grace". Now, though I disagree with them immensely, I feel that there are many more things we hold in common, according to His Word, that we would fall out over this. But, each church and/or asoc. has every right to do what they feel is correct according to the scriptures.

Love ya Brother!! :thumbs:

Yea for example I dont agree with them on KJO (Keep it under your hat....I have a NIV-LOL) but in general we agree with direction on Doctrine....there Im fully in accord with those brothers. Pino indicated a scriptural approach used by the church to address these issues. We who agree with this systematic approach are firmly convinced & so introducing a person who doesnt agree would only serve to split the church. As my mother used to say (she would never have gotten into contensious fighting over religious issues) she would say....."ypu go to your church & I will go to mine" Thats why we live in the USA.....we all have that liberty.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Perhaps (as a safeguard against error) it is time to revive this post about loving the brethren. :love2:

 

[saturneptune]

Yea for example I dont agree with them on KJO (Keep it under your hat....I have a NIV-LOL) but in general we agree with direction on Doctrine....there Im fully in accord with those brothers. Pino indicated a scriptural approach used by the church to address these issues. We who agree with this systematic approach are firmly convinced & so introducing a person who doesnt agree would only serve to split the church. As my mother used to say (she would never have gotten into contensious fighting over religious issues) she would say....."ypu go to your church & I will go to mine" Thats why we live in the USA.....we all have that liberty.

Yes, we live in a free nation. There are all types of churches wherever we live. That is a good thing. One of the reasons I limit myself to the South or interior West is that there are more people who believe like I do.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Yes, we live in a free nation. There are all types of churches wherever we live. That is a good thing. One of the reasons I limit myself to the South or interior West is that there are more people who believe like I do.

You will never get an eatable pizza that way :smilewinkgrin:

 

[salzer mtn]

This is a grave error, imo.

Martin Luther said to Erasmus:

“BUT this is still more intolerable,—Your enumerating this subject of "Free-will" among those things that are "useless, and not necessary;" and drawing up for us, instead of it, a "Form" of those things which you consider "necessary unto Christian piety."
“If, as you say, it be "irreligious," if it be "curious," if it be "superfluous," to know, whether or not God foreknows any thing by contingency; whether our own will does any thing in those things which pertain unto eternal salvation, or is only passive under the work of grace; whether or not we do, what we do of good or evil, from necessity, or rather from being passive; what then, I ask, is religious; what is grave; what is useful to be known?”

I am beginning to agree with Luke more and more as i read his post. How can two walk together except they be agreed. Everyone that sayeth to me Lord, Lord shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. I find very little fellowship with those who have an entirely different view of the scriptures than i do. We might fellowship together in worldly things but when it comes to the things of God, what fellowship has light with darkness. If he is grounded in his beliefs and i in mine we would just set across the living room staring at one another.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I am beginning to agree with Luke more and more as i read his post. How can two walk together except they be agreed. Everyone that sayeth to me Lord, Lord shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. I find very little fellowship with those who have an entirely different view of the scriptures than i do. We might fellowship together in worldly things but when it comes to the things of God, what fellowship has light with darkness. If he is grounded in his beliefs and i in mine we would just set across the living room staring at one another.

Salzer.....just curious, are you in the Southern Baptists Church?

 

[Yeshua1]

Salzer.....just curious, are you in the Southern Baptists Church?

Wondere what jesus meant by saying that we are ONE in him, that paul commanded us to keep the unity among the bethren, ONLY allowing for thosewho were either living as the unsavd again, or else promotong false teachings as reasons to break the unity?

NOT for over cal/arm, reformed non reformed, KJVO , or any petyty squabble we tend to love to do?

 

[Monster]

Do we truly love the brethren? Examine your hearts. Shouldn't the test of our spiritual understanding be that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. Can you honestly say that you would sooner be with the brethren than with anyone else, that you have found the people whom you do not like by nature but you can love as Christians because they are, with you, children of God?

Maybe, sometimes, always, never!

This is a Romans 7 sort of thing for me. There's always the conflicts between the knowing, the wanting and the doing. Just being honest here.

 

[salzer mtn]

Salzer.....just curious, are you in the Southern Baptists Church?

Sorry for not answering your question earlier, i have been to one of my best friends funeral. No i'm not in the Southern Baptist church. As i read these post some said, if you come to my church you would be welcome. Let me add a little to that. I have learned the hard way i might be welcome in a Arminian church but only if i keep my mouth shut.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Sorry for not answering your question earlier, i have been to one of my best friends funeral. No i'm not in the Southern Baptist church. As i read these post some said, if you come to my church you would be welcome. Let me add a little to that. I have learned the hard way i might be welcome in a Arminian church but only if i keep my mouth shut.

They will love you if & when you convert to their beliefs...therefore knowing that you must go where your beliefs are centered...not those other places. This is a difficult situation...I know it first hand. Still, you must guard your heart against being hardened.

My condolences regarding the loss of your close friend